What civilization do we know of that existed 8k years ago?
I believe Sumeria's considered the first civilization. It dates back 8,000 years. That's when farming started. Farming produced the first cities. There were wandering tribes and religious worship for thousands of years before that, though how many thousands is much discussed. Asians first came to America about 13,000 years ago (or more if you listen to some people), and they were tribal and religious. Obviously, they had to have been in Asia before that.
Well, a more obvious example of this particular form of child abuse is the case with Lamb and Lynx Gaede.
Yes, but isn't hate the problem there, and not religion?
Their situation is awful.