Good drugs, bad drugs, legal drugs, illegal drugs

Thanks.If anyone wants to return to the discusssion of drug policy this would be a better place.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I would decriminalize drug use, nationalize drug productions, subsidize it and give them away for free through a local clinic setting where users also get free medical care and education.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

I'm not convinced that it is such a terrible opinion.Look at the currents costs involved in the system in place. Because it is illicit, we have the costs involved in crime, in enforcement, in loss of productivity, pain and suffering. Then there is the major expense, the silly "War on Drugs".The real production costs of drugs is actually quite low. By decriminalizing and nationalizing the drugs, by giving them away for free, we would immediately stop a major source of funds to the criminal elements where it is a profit center.By setting up the distribution through neighborhood clinics we would also get people in where general medical care could be provided.Finally, the cost of the program would very likely be far less than what we spend today on the War on Drugs, local law enforcement related to drugs, incarceration of convicted drug users and dealers and the court costs associated with enforcement.In addition, the government could encourage US farmers and pharmacies to produce the drugs under contract, redirecting funds that today end up going to the foreign drug lords. The plan would even help stabilize other nations, like our southern neighbor.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

I have never seen any evidence that the cost of addiction was ever anything more than propaganda. And guess what, currently we do pay for their addiction. Where do junkies, as you call them, currently get the money to support their habit? I'm sorry but how exactly does my plan create more addiction?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Huh?You claimed that what I suggested would create more addition.Stopping an addiction gets done as it has always gotten done, through education. A good way to do that is by getting them into a setting where they can get treatment and care, in other words a medical clinic.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Creating false analogies is fun isn't it.First, most drugs are not equivalent to mercury poisoning. Most of today's illicit drugs are actually pretty benign, and one of the big problems is not the drugs themselves but purity and portion control.In addition, I did not simply suggest feeding and subsidizing. Remember the distribution system, I suggested distribution through local health clinics. That would bring the addicts into an environment where they can be educated and many of the things that lead to misuse addressed.For the majority of drug users, drugs are not fatal, in fact many may well be life enhancing. The problem is that so far we have not regulated or even investigated the majority.Keep the benefits to society in general in mind as well.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Yes it is. But guess what, it is only one of many drugs. So why is is successful? There is no misplaced sense of obligation; I really doubt where you can point to me even suggesting that. Nor is there any suggested "State Generosity."What I have suggested is is not out of generosity but rather enlightened self interest. Most drug users as a matter of fact still continue working. For some people yes it is fatal, but not for all. And guess what, society has finally learned that the way to cut down on nicotine use is ... education. Stop and think.YOU fund the addicts today through the costs of our silly system; in crime and pain and punishment and loss of freedom and higher taxes and prisons and loss of productivity.What I suggest will actually lower your costs.Edited by jar, : fix subtitle

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

But you have offered no model.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Why?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Again, it is a matter of enlightened self interest.There is only one organization that has authority and presence nationwide, and that is the Federal Government.Producing what today are illicit drugs can be done in a very cost effective manor and distribution through a national health care clinic system would also add the education component needed.You mentioned that Meth was a particular problem because it was destructive, extremely habit forming but CHEAP. Well, free is even cheaper than CHEAP.By using the system I recommend the CHEAP excuse gets removed. It will the be easier for the health care folk to redirect users from the cheap alternative to safer alternatives.The ultimate goal is of course to move people from being non-productive and even destructive to productive lives.The return that citizens would get on their investment in the system I describe would be reduced costs, reduced crime, more productive citizens and new business opportunities for those growing and manufacturing the drugs. For the users it would provide counseling, health care, remove the need to earn the fix through other illicit activities such as theft, prostitution, robbery.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Of course. And I don't see the correlation that you claim.But even if it were true, so what?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

But if they did show up and say that they wanted to try drugs, at least there would be professional councilors there to guide them towards less hazardous options.AbE:Also there would be an assurance that the quality and portion control, instructions and warnings would be included.Edited by jar, : add material

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

If so, and I doubt that, so what?What is wrong with being addicted?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

So let's examine the position.Note that many companies have "random drug testing". There is a reason for that. A big one is that most drug use simply can't be detected without drug testing. The people continue to function and perform their jobs. Now granted, there are a few jobs where zero tolerance might be applicable, but for the majority of positions it is just silly.The current position is as clearly a failure and it is time to step back and try something different.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Increased consumption of addictive/damaging substances was simply an assertion that YOU made.The question is still an open one and if the program I outlined was implemented I do not believe we would see an "Increased consumption of addictive/damaging substances".In addition, not all of the currently illicit drugs are damaging.Finally, I would say that the current system is not a relative failure, it is far more destructive to society than the drugs themselves.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!