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Buzsaw
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Message 16 of 44 (368897)
12-10-2006 10:07 PM


A few naturals for pancreas health are no sugar or white flour products, no smoke, no sweets, no alcohol, supplemental pancreatic enzymes (in place of antiacids) minerals, especially magnesium, antioxidants, no flouridated or clorinated water but plenty of pure water, selenium with natural vitamine E, green vegies.
NOTE: When sick with pancreatitis the above should be under the oversight of a capable accredited naturopath/homeopath practitioner (abe:who will be able to work on a total extensive wholistic program) after the MDs get one stabilized. They are available around most heavily populated areas.
Edited by Buzsaw, : error fix
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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 17 of 44 (368908)
12-10-2006 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by macaroniandcheese
12-10-2006 4:08 PM


Wishing you well, modulous. You're missed around here.
Thanks for the word, brennakimi.
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Edited by Archer Opterix, : 'Typos are very important to all written form. It gives the reader something to look for so they aren't distracted by the total lack of content in your writing.' -- Randy K Milholland

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RickJB
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Message 18 of 44 (368935)
12-11-2006 4:19 AM


Get well soon!

  
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Message 19 of 44 (368938)
12-11-2006 5:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by macaroniandcheese
12-10-2006 4:08 PM


Get well soon, Moddie.
being in hospital has got to suck.

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Message 20 of 44 (368950)
12-11-2006 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by macaroniandcheese
12-10-2006 4:08 PM


praying
I am praying that if it is God's will to miraculously cure you, that it would happen and, you would know it is from Him. I pray for knowledge for the doctors, and for you to get well fast, and suffer as little as possible.
Anthony

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Modulous
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Message 21 of 44 (369265)
12-12-2006 10:19 AM


Thank you very very much
...for all of your messages.
I don't have a lot of time now, but I am back on my feet and basically all is well. I say basically because nobody is exactly sure what happened or rather why it happened. I started feeling sick at about 1am, had a sharp pain at about 10am and then called an ambulance when the pain had gone from horrible to crippling. By the time the ambulance arrived I had gone into shock. The pancreas inflaming was the cause of the pain and sickness, but nobody seems to be able to work out why the pancreas decided to flare up.
I'll bore you all with the details when I have more time, but I just wanted to say a big thank you for the supportive words in here. I came to the site when I was feeling physically better but my morale was really low and my spirits were raised by what I read here.

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clpMINI
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Message 22 of 44 (369324)
12-12-2006 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Modulous
12-12-2006 10:19 AM


Doctors = Mechanics
Your doctors are going to treat you like a car now. They don't know exactly whats happening, so they are going to run every test and check every system they can until they do!
Just tell them to replace your panreas and everything should be cool...we CAN replace them can't we?

I mean, this is America. Everybody loves seeing lesbians go at it, as long as they are both hot and not in a monogamous, legally sanctioned relationship.

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Buzsaw
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Message 23 of 44 (369382)
12-12-2006 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Modulous
12-12-2006 10:19 AM


Re: Thank you very very much
Hi Mod. If you can go to the drug store and get an acid test litmus paper roll or some over the counter acid test, get it and test your urine. For healing you want a 7.5 (slightly akaline) or higher. If you can't get it at the drug store sometimes pet stores have them. Go on line and check out the foods that are akaline and the ones that are acid. It'll amaze you how important this is to healing anything. Generally the green raw vegies, vegie juice and mild herbal teas (no black tea) are akaline foods.
Regardless of what route you go for treatment, an alkaline ph will help you recover sooner. May God be with you and heal you.
ABE: I might add that for well folks, if you do as I said to Mod and keep you ph at about 7.5 or higher you are much less likely to get sick. Not only that, but if this test shows an acid ph, you are more at risk for illness or attacks.
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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purpledawn
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Message 24 of 44 (369383)
12-12-2006 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by macaroniandcheese
12-10-2006 4:08 PM


Get Well
Hey Mod,
Get well soon. Hospital food is definitely not good holiday fare.
My thoughts are with you.

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nator
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Message 25 of 44 (369410)
12-12-2006 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
12-10-2006 10:07 PM


quote:
supplemental pancreatic enzymes (in place of antiacids)
Buz, if these enzymes are ingested, how do they survive the digestion process, including the hydrochloric acid in the stomach?
It's my understanding that any ingested enzyme, which are proteins, are denatured (unraveled and broken apart) during digestion.
If enzymes are denatured, they cannot work as enzymes anymore.
Did you know, by the way, that one of the functions of the pancreas is to secrete bicarbonate and water into the digestive system? Thais is a base that it secretes in order to neutralize the acids present in the DS.
Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

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Buzsaw
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Message 26 of 44 (369427)
12-12-2006 11:38 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by nator
12-12-2006 9:38 PM


Enzyme/proteins
Schraf writes:
It's my understanding that any ingested enzyme, which are proteins, are denatured (unraveled and broken apart) during digestion.
1. You may want to check out this Nobel prize discovery regarding protein/enzyme properties. We use high quality Maximum Living enzymes. Maximum Living has a reputation for effective suppliments. They serve us well.
2. Due to the huge market of enzyme products in the health field, imo, the FDA would be on the companies, especial naturopath ones, big time if all these products were bogus.
Nobel paper excerpt writes:
Many chemical reactions cannot occur without a catalyst. A catalyst is a molecule which can facilitate a chemical reaction without being consumed or changed. Virtually all chemical reactions taking place in a living cell require catalysts. Such biocatalysts are called enzymes. For example in saliva there is an enzyme which converts starch to glucose, in the liver there is another enzyme which breaks down alcohol. There are also enzymes that enable plants to convert the carbon dioxide in the air to sugar and starch. Until the results of Altman and Cech became known, all enzymes were considered to be proteins. ......................
It was during the search for the enzymatic proteins of these reactions that Altman and Cech made their surprising discovery - the enzymes were not proteins but nucleic acids!
Press release: The 1989 Nobel Prize in Chemistry - NobelPrize.org

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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johnfolton 
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Message 27 of 44 (369460)
12-13-2006 1:16 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Modulous
12-12-2006 10:19 AM


Enzymes and Proteins
Stop brushing your teeth with flouride toothpaste and start brushing with a phosphate soap like bronners pure castile soap. It can be purchased at most any health food store.
I would look for an "integrated" holistic medical doctor (not only a holistic naturalpath or homeopath, etc... that will test your blood for heavy metals. In this way if you are deficient in certain elements that support the enzyme system you can scientifically support your deficiencies in the basic elements.
I have no problem with Buzz suggestions for green cholophyll foods, increasing the buffering ability up the blood to maintain a 7 ph, enzyme support, juicing and such but believe its a good idea to have an integrated medical holistic doctor monitoring the vitals along with your regular doctor instead of just a natural path or holistic doctor, chriopractor, etc...
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Here's the link to information about phosphate soap and ones mouth.
Root canals are nasty too, not sure if two teaspoons of salt in a little hot water would suck out the toxins in dead root tooth by osmosis or not. Lots of other good information in Dr. Judds book.
Soap is a cheap way to improve the enzymes activities in ones mouth, etc...
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The mechanism for destruction of enzymes by fluoride has been proven by x-ray studies. Hydrogen bonds are broken by fluoride.
Fluoride is the smallest negative particle on the face of the earth. Since the fluoride particles are so small and so intensely negative, they connect with the hydrogen bonds holding the enzyme coils in place and ruin every enzyme molecule at very low concentration, around 1-3 ppm. These enzymes are often 3,000 or more times the small size of the fluoride. The effect is ruinous.
To avoid fluoride is to prevent the destruction of 83 enzymes listed with references in Good Teeth, Birth to Death, by Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D.. Fluoride is a severe biological poison. Being intensely negative, it unlatches positive hydrogen bonds in enzymes AND proteins.
http://reactor-core.org/dental-health.html
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kuresu
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Message 28 of 44 (369461)
12-13-2006 1:29 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Buzsaw
12-12-2006 11:38 PM


Re: Enzyme/proteins
careful buz, in what you claim.
the paper states that RNA can work as both enzyme and its traditional role. it's information about hte contruction of proteins is also basic biology now.
if I remember form my biology class correctly, all proteins are made of nucleic acids, which are comprised of three nitrogenous bases.
all enyzems are proteins (with few notable exceptions, such as the RNA thing here).
the order of the nucleic acids determines the shape of the protein.
and most of them denature when the acidity is too great or the heat to great. denaturing an enzyme (or protein) destroys it for good.
Almost all proteins are denatured when exposed to our stomach juice--basically because it has a low pH--somewhere inbetween 1 and 2. The ones that aren't are protected, for example, the bacteria that can live in your stomach have working enzymes, protected from the high acidity of the stomach.
I'm gonna make a bet that those enzymes you digest are surrounded by a base or a capsule that protects them from the stomach.

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Message 29 of 44 (369466)
12-13-2006 2:55 AM


Glad to see you are feeling better. Get well soon as I miss your kind way of dealing with my misbehavior.

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Modulous
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Message 30 of 44 (369477)
12-13-2006 6:01 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by clpMINI
12-12-2006 2:51 PM


Re: Doctors = Mechanics
Your doctors are going to treat you like a car now. They don't know exactly whats happening, so they are going to run every test and check every system they can until they do!
I am already getting used to the duality of being Mod the 'car' and Mod the human. Fortunately I find the 'car' part quite fascinating, but the human gets scared about it. They ran pleeeenty of tests already. Unfortunately, I learned that my particular brand of complaint is potentially very rare and 'a highly exciting area of research'...so if it turns out I have that brand of complaint, I'll become very familiar with being jacked up and having people staring at my undercarriage. They sent me home while they arrange a meeting with more boffins to scour the CT Scan for further clues.
And yes, they can replace the pancreas, but only I believe if I have a certain type of diabetes.

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