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Larni
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Message 90 of 131 (471342)
06-16-2008 6:41 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by pelican
06-15-2008 9:15 PM


Re: The human mind
pelican writes:
Many posters on this forum have been 'corrected' and 'judged' and 'ignored' because of incorrect spelling.
My bold.
Who has been ignored?
Edited by Larni, : Correct incorrect spellink

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Larni
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Message 95 of 131 (471472)
06-17-2008 3:57 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by pelican
06-17-2008 1:52 AM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
Pelican writes:
Many posters on this forum have been 'corrected' and 'judged' and 'ignored' because of incorrect spelling.
My bold.
Who has been ignored?

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Larni
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Message 100 of 131 (471637)
06-17-2008 4:45 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by pelican
06-17-2008 5:25 AM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
pelican writes:
I suppose it's more of a 'what' that is ignored. Full posts but mainly the whole point of the posts.
Or not understood and subsequently ignored because of crappy spelling and grammer.

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Larni
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Message 102 of 131 (471766)
06-18-2008 4:21 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by pelican
06-17-2008 6:00 PM


You got me.
Ouch and touche.
As I have made a mistake in spelling I now throw my lot in with you: is is acceptable to be careless with spelling and grammar.
Back to reality.
pelican writes:
However, if the word is recognizable and in context, what is the big problem?
Repeated spelling and grammar mistakes correlate in our heads with a lack of credibility. This is the same effect as Hill Billy correlating in his head long words with arrogance.
If you want a technical reason look up the fundemental attribution error.
It ain't fair or right but that's how our brains are wired to work: some say by a god. Go figure what he was thinking.
Edited by Larni, : Inevitable spelling mistakes.

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Larni
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Message 104 of 131 (471780)
06-18-2008 7:26 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by pelican
06-18-2008 6:58 AM


Re: You got me.
Aargh!
Hoist by my own petard!
I guess I'm not the poster boy for this arguement, eh?
The fundamental attribution error has nothing to do with fundamentalism: it is social psychology.

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Larni
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Message 106 of 131 (471795)
06-18-2008 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 105 by pelican
06-18-2008 8:06 AM


Re: You got me.
A good question to ask is 'why have our brains evolved to make the fundamental attribution error?'

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Larni
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Message 108 of 131 (471821)
06-18-2008 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by pelican
06-18-2008 11:17 AM


Not quite.
The thing is our brains evolved to work this way because it is a short cut. A short cut that is prone to error but as any body who knows anything about evolution will tell you it is good enough.
That is to say it is correct more often than it is not. Most of the time some one with the spelling and grammatical capacity of a cat's arse is not going to hold much in the way of intellectual credability.
Note that this is not always the case but it is in such frequency that it is a logical short cut to assume such.
It sucks when it is assumed about oneself but them's the breaks.
It's not fair to make assumptions but we do 'cause it's often quicker and (more times than not) correct.

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Larni
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Message 110 of 131 (471921)
06-19-2008 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by pelican
06-18-2008 8:12 PM


Re: Not quite.
pelican writes:
Do you think intellect relies on correct spelling?
If someone writes like a child they most likely are.
Show me a post that has more than 2 spelling and 2 grammatical errors per line that makes a decent argument and I will concede the point.
Edited by Larni, : Spelling mistakes, obviously.

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Larni
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Message 112 of 131 (472047)
06-20-2008 4:01 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by pelican
06-19-2008 9:58 PM


Re: Not quite.
pelican writes:
if the word is recognizable and in context, what is the big problem?
How have I not answered your question?
pelican writes:
1. Posters on this forum think of themselves as intellectuals.
2. You are judgemental.
I think to tar everyone on this site (including yourself) as thinking of themselves as an intellectual is erroneous.
I am judgmental; but then who is not? That's my point. People will judge people on how and what they write because how and what we write is often an indicator of the qualities of the individual. Not always, but enough to make it a valid short cut for assessing other people quickly.

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Larni
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Message 114 of 131 (472066)
06-20-2008 7:56 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by pelican
06-20-2008 7:07 AM


Re: Concede
pelican writes:
That is your answer? The problem with incorrect spelling (even though it is recognizable and in context) is that people are judgemental and justify their judgements by the presence of incorrect spelling. Oh that's alright then.
No. That's not what I mean.
People do make snap judgments because normally the snap judgments are accurate enough for every day use. Imagine going to an interview dressed down, not weary a suite? Would you expect to get the job?
However, I do concede the point that you can splel in scuh a wya thta slil aollws teh wrosd ot eb raed.
But I ask you, would you do it for CV?
What you you expect the reader to think? That's the point.

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Larni
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Message 116 of 131 (472079)
06-20-2008 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by pelican
06-20-2008 8:42 AM


Re: Concede
pelican writes:
I find the readers can make as many mistakes in their interpretation of what is written.
But would you not find it seaser to undertsnad something when the wrighter has spent some tuime trying to get his/her spelling just right?
If i was to writhe this way all the time how long woulf it take for you to get pissed off with having to decipher what I was actually try to say?
If I did tnot hale the thime to check what I rithe this is how it would look.
I'm sure you can reed this but do you think it is fari for me to expect that you should?

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Larni
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Message 118 of 131 (472158)
06-20-2008 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by pelican
06-20-2008 6:30 PM


Re: Concede
So you would not accept the burden of translation if it was not deliberate?
You and me, against the world, eh?

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Larni
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Message 127 of 131 (472695)
06-24-2008 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by pelican
06-22-2008 2:42 AM


Re: Nonchalance
pelican writes:
Larni deliberately sabotaged his spellings and deliberately made them difficult to decipher to make a point.
Not so: that is how it would look if I did not go back and correct it.

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Larni
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Message 129 of 131 (472698)
06-24-2008 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by pelican
06-24-2008 9:11 AM


Re: Nonchalance
I'm just a bad typer and appalling speller.

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