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Author Topic:   Does an atheist have to believe in evolution?
ohnhai
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Message 8 of 64 (310177)
05-08-2006 12:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by SR71
05-07-2006 6:36 PM


An Atheist doesn’t HAVE to believe in Evolution. There is no dogma associated with Atheism to say what you must or must not believe. Most Atheists will support the ToE for the same reasons they don’t believe in the existence of God. That reason being those conclusions are the current best fit with the current evidence.

That said there is nothing stopping an atheist arguing against the ToE for whatever reason, though I will admit his reasons would have to be mighty compelling.


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ohnhai
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Message 41 of 64 (310656)
05-10-2006 1:34 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by riVeRraT
05-09-2006 11:21 PM


RR writes:

Athiest don't "believe" in anything, that is why they are athiest, come on now.

Wrong. Atheism only refers to a lack of belief in the divine. It has NO bearing on belief in anything else. I could believe in punk unicorns but that does not change my lack of belief in the existence of god.

That atheists ‘don’t believe in anything’ is a fallacy created to try and undermine their credibility.

Edit- changed 'discredit' for 'undermine'. Reads better. Also removed the double neg in the opening paragraph...

This message has been edited by ohnhai, 11-05-2006 04:10 PM

Edited by ohnhai, : Fixed The quote atribution. Appologies to Ratty and Faith.


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ohnhai
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Message 47 of 64 (310904)
05-10-2006 10:14 PM
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05-10-2006 6:44 AM


RR writes:

OK fine, by definition you are correct. But 19 times out of 20 (or whatever #)you ask an atheist why they don't believe, you know what answer you'll get.

Again I think you are making the mistake in assuming lack of belief in one thing equates to an inability to believe in anything else. I personally believe in the scientific method, I have a lot of faith in it and its ability to hone in on a solid explanation of that we see around us.

Also its wrong to assume that an Atheist has any rational reason for his lack of belief in the divine. For instance if an Atheist doesn’t believe in God because “the pixie under the potting shed said God doesn’t exist” then he is as much an Atheist as the one that discounts God because of the lack of empirical data. However, you are right in saying that vast majority of Atheists will cite the lack of empirical data as the overriding reason for their lack of belief, but that does not mean that this worldview is actually required to be an Atheist.

Therefore, to reiterate the only thing that defines an Atheist as such is the lack of belief in the divine. He may hold this view for any rational or irrational reason he chooses, and lack of belief in the divine does not exclude the possibility that he may believe in many other things.


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