True Freedom

I find no truer words written. How eloquent, how true.Sartre and Smullyan founded libertarianism. That man is by definition: free.Smullyan provides an excellent example in his work Is God a Taoist putting words to God.

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"Why the idea that I could have possibly created you without free will! You acted as if this was a genuine possibility, and wondered why I did not choose it! It never occurred to you that a sentient being without free will is no more concievable than a physical object which exerts no gravitational attraction."

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Man is inherently free but man is subject to environment.
When I say environment I mean everything that influences a human being. Examples of environment are: culture one is born into, religion of one's parents, whether one is born in an urban or rural area or somewhere in between, born into a third world culture, the values/morals of one's society, taboos of one's society, one's economic status(upper,middle,lower working class) etc etc... There are many, many more.One may become a hard determinist through thinking on their envvironment and how they have been shaped by their environment to be for a fitting example: a militant fundamentalist christian.I am a libertarian along with Jean-Paul Sartre and Ray Smullyan. One can overcome one's environment. That is beautiful. This is rarely done, in fact it is almost never done. But through reasoning one's existence it can be achieved.I am on the other extreme but this view gives me hope in this "absurd abyss of existence"(Camus).Edited by -messenjah of one, : typo in the second or third sentenceEdited by -messenjah of one, : typo, againEdited by -messenjah of one, : arroganceEdited by -messenjah of one, : A trivial pointEdited by -messenjah of one, : arroganceEdited by -messenjah of one, : arrogance

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I tend to follow the jefferonian ideal of freedom--liberty, equality, and the pursuit of happiness

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That's John Locke, enlightenment thinker

No Jefferson without Locke. (add emphasis after sentence here)

Jefferson is ghosting Locke. That is a fact. It's good, I'm just nitpicking.Descartes gave support for the mind, I think therefore I am, I don't see the correlation oyu described between him and Locke, not to be a petty person.In chat anglagard said Spinoza before Locke, is that who you are looking for?If not educate me on why youu chose Descartes?Edited by -messenjah of one, : No reason given.

For whatever it's worth: Jefferson reminds me of Che.Possibly very inaccurate

IF YOU ONLY KNEW.....him and i been recommending that book for a yr now.Hesse is quality.Have you read Demian?Altruism. Categorical imperative 1 and 2.Edited by -messenjah of one, : grammar

My cousin gave me that book to read. I was too into existentialism at that point to read it, he wanted it back anyway.

I'm going to stop hijacking Prophex's thread, sorry

HE WOULD HAND IT OVER.It's totally plausible.

The statements are "rich" regardless.Are the statements no less true?Your criticism is pushing an enslaved ideology that I personally hold disdain for.You were born free. Start acting like it, damnit.Edited by -messenjah of one, : embarassing spelling errorEdited by -messenjah of one, : embarrassing spelling error ^

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I rarely spell a word incorrectly, that was embarrassing.Out of character for you to "call me out on it" though.That's fine, I've been cruel before, only to know-it-alls.Which is exactly your point.Edited by -messenjah of one, : No reason given.

While you're soaking in the rays of mediocrity, I'll be attempting to change the world.I hold some hope for humanity.Never realized people would so staunchly defend conformity.boggles the mind......

Would you have killed another man in the name of Great Britain?

He could serve as an impetus to the enlightening of an individual.That is all one could ask for.Siddhartha Gautama and Jesus Christ did share with humanity.Edited by -messenjah of one, : typo

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And this, before you've even read the philosophers.

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You must hold the ability to read minds because you do not know him personally.I will take a guess that his credentials are of higher standing than your own and if not then it is only because of his age. Time and opportunity alone. I will not judge your intellect from your posts here but I find the defense of conformity usually attributed to those that are easily manipulated.This discrimination because of Prophex's age is bothersome but I must resign that noone here can say for sure that they follow Christ.Jesus Christ said:"Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."Maybe Charlie hasn't fallen into trivialities as men do...Edited by -messenjah of one, : bible verse