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Topic: True Freedom
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 36 of 300 (344090)
08-27-2006 10:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 35 by joshua221
08-27-2006 10:47 PM
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Re: Question to Evc
We're here because we're here because we're here because we're here...
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 38 of 300 (344096)
08-27-2006 10:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 37 by joshua221
08-27-2006 10:58 PM
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Re: Question to Evc
Gotta wait awhile to get that answer. But I bet it will be .... because... AbE: Let me add this. Answering the Why question is a matter of history. It is a summation made at the end, a finally tally. Until then it is still being written, only after the fact does it graner any worth or meaning. Edited by jar, : No reason given.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 41 of 300 (344102)
08-27-2006 11:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 40 by joshua221
08-27-2006 11:04 PM
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Re: Question to Evc
Thank you, I didn't want a non-answer, I guess I wanted to know that you needed to contemplate the answer to such a question as much as I also do, and have many times over. No, don't have to contemplate it.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 53 of 300 (344237)
08-28-2006 9:50 AM
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Reply to: Message 42 by joshua221
08-27-2006 11:33 PM
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Re: Question to Evc
I can tell you human history in a few sentences. Who said anything about Human History. I am speaking of history of a human.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 70 of 300 (344388)
08-28-2006 5:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 69 by joshua221
08-28-2006 5:49 PM
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Re: Question to Evc
If you don't believe in God, you still want to know why we are in this abyss. What abyss?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 87 of 300 (344467)
08-28-2006 9:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 86 by Trump won
08-28-2006 9:05 PM
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Re: Question to Evc
Your criticism is pushing an enslaved ideology that I personally hold distain for. Disdain?
You were born free. Start acting like it, damnit. I wasn't. But I was on sale.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 95 of 300 (344673)
08-29-2006 10:21 AM
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Reply to: Message 93 by joshua221
08-29-2006 9:37 AM
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Re: Question to Evc
Well, I didn't need someone to point out for me how my existance has been without true purpose, and I would never deny it or ignore it, if it was pointed out. And I am "learning". An environment where ideas are discussed. I haven't been brought into meaningless work, and jobs designed for profit. I'm not sure I understand what you are talking about. What is "true Purpose?" Over the years I have had quite a few jobs. Many have been exciting and challenging, loads of fun and a chance to really stretch out and do new things, others were less pleasant, some down right horrid, but still I learned something in every one and made friends as well along the way. Is purpose something you strive towards, or is it the summation as you look backwards? For awhile I was an optician. I made and fitted eyeglasses for folk. At the time it was a messy, nasty job where you burned your fingers daily, cut yourself several times a day, required exacting methodology and also art. I thought the "True Purpose" was those moments when you fitted a pair of glasses and had the person turn around and look out the window and you got a response like "Leaves! The tree has leaves!" Then one day, there was a loud crash back in the lab. One of the owners had a heart attack. I rushed to the back and he was on the floor, not breathing, no sign of pulse. I immediately started giving mouth to mouth and trying to get the heart started. I yelled to the others that were standing about to call an ambulance, showed one how to do the compression while I continued doing the mouth to mouth. As a team, we had him breathing on his own and heart pumping by the time the ambulance arrived. He was conscious, eyes open and knew who he was. So maybe that was the "True Purpose?" One other thing to consider though. On the way to the hospital he had another massive heart attack and was DOA. So, now, can we look back and see what the "True Purpose" was?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Question to Evc
You helped someone heroically. Nothing heroic about it. He drank a lot and had thrown up and it was about as unheroic a situation as is imaginable.
You gave purpose to this absurdity. Really? What purpose. He died less than 15 miutes later. Hint: There is a purpose in there but so far it seems unlikely you will find it. You did what Jesus would have done. Yeah right. Jesus was well known for halfassed miracles and giving folk hope then snatching it away. LOL
And in an environment of mediocrity, where the taken-advantage of, the satisfied, the vast majority, the decieved, the lied to, the slaves to the system reside. YadaYada.
I wanted to tell you all to leave that place, but it is safe, and simple. You cannot be a guide when you have never been anywhere.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 113 of 300 (344852)
08-29-2006 6:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 111 by tsig
08-29-2006 6:47 PM
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Re: Risen
Well, there is Steeplechase and there's the Limbo. 
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 130 of 300 (345028)
08-30-2006 11:36 AM
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Boy this is a great thread.
All the old truisms are flood back like a massive tsunami. Power to the people.
Never trust anyone over 30.
We shall overcome.
All war is deception.
Look ma, no Arms.
Make Love not War.
There is no way to peace, Peace IS the way.
Peace, Think about it.
Books, not bombs.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Dear less advantaged men and women of this board.
I will take a guess that his credentials are of higher standing than your own and if not then it is only because of his age. Time and opportunity alone. It's fine for you to say that as I will show later in this post. However do not underestimate the value of time and opportunity. Also do not discount failure, it is one of the most important things one can do, but unfortunately, it does require both time and opportunity to fail sufficiently. You and Charlie simply have not had enough time or opportunities to have failed enough for it to be of value.
Jesus Christ said: "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." But we do follow that teaching Chris, we suffer you and Charlie and do not hinder you. Edited by jar, : No reason given.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Dear less advantaged men and women of this board.
And René Descartes was a drunken fart.
'I drink, therefore I am.' and thanks to Archer in Message 137...
Rene Descartes walks into McDonald's. The perky kid behind the counter says 'May I take your order, sir?' Descartes looks up at the menu and says 'I think I will have a Big Mac, and some French fries, and a vanilla shake.' The perky kid says 'Would you like a hot apple pie with that, sir?' Descartes says 'I think not'--and disappears. and my personal favorite, the reply to an inviation to the Scientists Ball:
Boyle said he was under too much pressure. Edison thought it would be an illuminating experience. Watt reckoned it would be a good way to let off steam. Stephenson thought the whole idea was loco. Wilbur Wright said he'd take a flier on it. Dr Jekyll declined-- he hadn't been feeling himself lately. Morse replied: "I'll be there on the dot. Can't stop now - must dash." Heisenberg was uncertain if he could make it. Hertz said in the future he planned to attend with greater frequency. Henry begged off due to a low capacity for alcohol. Audobon said he'd have to wing it. Hawking said he'd try to string enough time together to make a space in his schedule. Darwin said he'd have to see what evolved. Schrodinger had to take his cat to the vet, or did he? Mendel said he'd put some things together and see what came out. Descartes said he'd think about it. Newton was moved to attend. Pavlov was drooling at the thought. Gauss was asked to attend because of his magnetic personality.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Dear less advantaged men and women of this board.
Nathaniel Fick is smart. He learned how to market and exploit.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 155 of 300 (345196)
08-30-2006 7:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 151 by CK
08-30-2006 6:50 PM
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I certainly would not have to load a pistol.  Edited by jar, : ao->oa
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 168 of 300 (345396)
08-31-2006 10:44 AM
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Reply to: Message 167 by JavaMan
08-31-2006 7:28 AM
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Re: Bourgeois stuff
And from one of my favorite philosophy groups, SNZ
In a line at the cafe I overheard the waitress say These cats is broke, I knows em Throw em out the doors and close em! Spirits sagging, funds are low This occupation has got to go. Up pulls a limo, up goes a thrill The suits are picking up the bill! Its allright for them to tag along Its just one bill they're tacking on Buisness suits to the rescue So nice doing business with you. You will really ape and clown when you realize the dough they're shelling out For this deal! The suits are picking up the bill! I cannot see from where I'm standing My friends have passed out on a landing Guess one too many has left us high and dry I'll be feeling down 'til the suits get back in town
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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