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Omnivorous
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Message 46 of 51 (316654)
05-31-2006 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Percy
05-31-2006 4:13 PM


Just to the right of the nitro...
It is available from chemical supply stores online. I suppose a good craft store might carry it, as homemade glycerin soaps are popular. It is often listed more accurately as glycerol.
AbE: To correct my misstatement: Glycerin is indeed water soluble.
Edited by Omnivorous, : Corrected earlier error in fact.

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Omnivorous
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Message 47 of 51 (316698)
05-31-2006 6:52 PM
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05-31-2006 4:13 PM


Info on shaving cream manufacture
Percy, excuse the (bare-faced?) link, but you might find this useful. Several sections down the page, common shaving cream ingredients (including glycerin) and their purposes are discussed.
No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.madehow.com/Volume-1/Shaving-Cream.html

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Coragyps
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Message 48 of 51 (316743)
05-31-2006 10:02 PM


Glycerine is almost always available in drugstores in little brown plastic bottles. Ask rather than search, though.
I think that the problem Percy sees with shampoo or dish soap is due to those being synthetic detergents. Omni's link and my aerosol can of shaving cream both mention stearic acid and triethanolamine. These ingredients make a (semi-"natural") soap as opposed to a detergent: the reason for triethanolamine instead of lye (sodium hydroxide) that's used to make Ivory bar soap is that triethanolamine gives a liquid product, so it'll go into a can easier and stay in solution. I don't have a "because" for the "why" of soaps working better on the face, though. Mayhap it's Just Because.
Chemical history note: if you take cow fat, melt it, and add the appropriate amount of lye, you get soap, AKA sodium stearate, and glycerine. If you acidify the sodium stearate, you get stearic acid. Use potassium hydroxide instead of lye, and you get "soft soap" like the pioneers got by using wood ashes as their source of (mostly) potassium hydroxide. Use triethanolamine, get liquid soap. None of the properly-made finished soaps are dangerous, as all exactly neutralize the base used with the stearic acid.
AbE: Omni's link is mistaken about triethanolamine being a surfactant - it's just the neutralizing agent for the stearic acid. That neutralized product is formally a surfactant in the sense that all soaps are surfactants.
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Message 49 of 51 (316786)
06-01-2006 5:54 AM


Alternative Shaving Ideas
This may sound like a commercial but it isn't. I personally find discussion of what people use to shave interesting because it was such a traumatic thing for me. It took a long time for me to begin shaving (and even now I cannot grow a "full" beard) but when the hairs did come in they were thick and at all different angles making single stroke shaving impossible.
I tried all sorts of shaving cremes and gels and soaps and the result was almost always irritation of the skin and breaking out, especially under the chin. Barber "foam" was close to the best I could get at a good shave.
That is until I tried the "for men SHAVE CREAM" from the Body Shop (sorry that's the generic title it has). If anyone has trouble like I have had trouble with shaving, I totally recommend this for a try. From the first and ever since (now I have been using it for the last 4 years) it has been fantastic. It is rare for me to break out or suffer skin irritation in any way.
One thing I like is that it doesn't have to have any pressurized elements (its like a kind of stiff goop in a can or squeezable "travel" tube). That makes it feel more environmentally friendly, as well as being low mess in putting on. It contains glycerin as well as a coconut acid which may be what gives it a unique mildly pleasant smell.
In the end everyone is different and will have to find what works for them. I don't think there is a universal shaving solution. I just recommend that for people who have tried most common brands and suffer from irritation.
For those that have an immense problem with shaving anywhere, maybe you should try clipping it (with an electric hair clipper). It won't be off, but it'd be shorter and won't really be messy... just don't do it in the shower.
I should note that I have had male friends who shave their legs (for biking, running, and swimming AND one who just likes to be smooth/clean) and female friends (including my current gf) who do not shave their legs at all. Its all good, the key is to be comfortable!

holmes {in temp decloak from lurker mode}
"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." (D.Bros)

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Message 50 of 51 (525200)
09-22-2009 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by Silent H
06-01-2006 5:54 AM


Re: Alternative Shaving Ideas
I just want to say a few things here about shaving as a licensed barber.....
First off, the lather that comes out of the campbell machines is really NOT meant for face shaving, period. You CAN use it on your face but it's a little too thin and dries too fast. Most serious barbers do not use campbells by itself for shaving the face but instead mix it with another type of cream and/or glycerin making an "uber-lather" that is much better for face shaving. The campbells machine IS good for nape shaving which is what most barbers use it for nowadays. I've never heard any successful stories on making the lather out of the machine any thicker as it will clog or just not work at all.
That being said.....SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL BARBER! There are some of us out there that will give you an EXCELLENT wet shave.

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Coragyps
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Message 51 of 51 (525206)
09-22-2009 12:28 PM
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09-22-2009 11:45 AM


Re: Alternative Shaving Ideas
Contributing to thread necromancy.......
There are some of us out there that will give you an EXCELLENT wet shave.
By far the best shave I've ever had was my only barber shop shave with a straight razor. I was a big teenager, and only noticed that the barber had a touch of Parkinson's after I was already in the chair. I was far too polite to scream and flee from the shop, so I let him put on the hot towels and lather me up while I watched his hand tremors.
As soon as he picked up the blade he was a steady as a rock. Whew!

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