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Author Topic:   Why Atheists don't believe
kongstad
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Message 25 of 310 (311379)
05-12-2006 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
05-11-2006 8:24 AM


rr writes:
1. Why don't you believe in the divine?
I have no reason to believe in the divine.
2. Do you believe in anything without evidence?
Sure, lots of things
/Sren

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kongstad
Member (Idle past 2890 days)
Posts: 175
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Message 238 of 310 (312975)
05-17-2006 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by riVeRraT
05-15-2006 6:56 AM


Beliefs without evidence
Well for startes my wife told me she changed shifts with a coworker, so she had this day of, and was at work yesterday.
I never heard this conversation, so I have no evidence of it, but I generally accept her statements on faith.
The general principle of accepting her statements is based on experience, but each specific instance is unique and without evidence.
If she came home and said she had had tea with the queen, I wouldn't accept it first hand for example, since this seems quite unreasonable.
I generally accept experts statements on their area of expertise on faith. If I find the statements unreasonable in my own experience, I tend to be more sceptic than when it confirms my other experiences.
I also believe that there are no invisible soundless flying mice in the room with me now. This is not based on any evidence at all.
I also believe that there are no 10 by 10 by 10 meter objects made of swiss cheese in orbit around pluto. Again purely on blind faith.
/Soren

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kongstad
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From: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Message 246 of 310 (313249)
05-18-2006 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by riVeRraT
05-18-2006 8:39 AM


Re: Beliefs without evidence
riVeRraT writes:
In the court room of your head she is a viable witness.
Yes on commonplace subjects. Like I said, if she says she had tea with the queen, I would be very sceptic. If she claimed to have met Jesus or the invisible pink unicorn, she would have to do a lot of work to convince me, like taking me to shake his hand, or her hoof.
So when I write out my testimony, like I did in this thread, do you believe that I am experiencing what I say?
Yes, I have no reason to believe you are a liar. I do not however believe that your experience is caused by anything "supernatural", an extaordinary claim like that needs extraordinary support.
Edited by kongstad, : Added a point

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