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Message 31 of 46 (171205)
12-23-2004 7:00 PM
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12-23-2004 6:49 PM


Re: To all TEXAS EvC Forum members.
I'm in as long as it's not to far, not to long and not to boring. If it gets drawn out we can always go to BillyBobs in FortWorth.
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Message 32 of 46 (171317)
12-24-2004 1:32 PM


Happy holidays everyone!
  
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Message 33 of 46 (171320)
12-24-2004 1:43 PM


A Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday to you.
Happy Birthday to you.
Happy Birthday dear Isaac,
Happy Birthday to youuuuuuuuu.

(I understand he is almost as old as I am )


  
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Message 34 of 46 (171328)
12-24-2004 2:43 PM
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12-23-2004 6:49 PM


Re: To all TEXAS EvC Forum members.
Why not? Austin in the springtime, or with the Internet Infidels' worldwide gathering in Dallas?
Or at one of the Creation Science sic museums, in Glen Rose or Crosbyton?

And HAPPY HOLIDAYS to one and all of you!

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Message 35 of 46 (171334)
12-24-2004 3:42 PM
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Re: To all TEXAS EvC Forum members.
Now that would be a hoot. BBQ, Beer and a tour of the Museum in Glen Rose.


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Rrhain
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Message 36 of 46 (171336)
12-24-2004 3:58 PM
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sidelined responds to me:

quote:
Come on up to Edmonton as I have nails and wood and I am sure we can put you up for the night.

Only if you can guarantee a $400 million gross domestic return. I don't work for free.


Rrhain
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Message 37 of 46 (171340)
12-24-2004 4:14 PM
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12-21-2004 11:16 AM


Happy Hols!
Merry Christmas to everyone at EVC. I don't have the stamina to mention you all by name, but I thank you all for the fascinating debates I've lurked through - long may they continue.

My only personal mention is to my gallant Knight in Shining Armour, who helped out with some horrid calculations involving trig (spit, spit, spit, I HATE trig). Step forward Nosy Ned, my hero, for assistance above and beyond the call of duty. I've asked Santa to send an 18 yr old blonde to your house tonight instead of going himself.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all. Lang may yer lumb reek!!!


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Message 38 of 46 (171342)
12-24-2004 4:19 PM
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12-24-2004 4:14 PM


Re: Happy Hols!
You'll be happy to know that Santa got your message and that Bubba is already on his way to Ned's.


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Message 39 of 46 (171347)
12-24-2004 4:52 PM
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12-24-2004 3:58 PM


Rrhain

LOL!!
Do you think we could beat Gibson at his own game? Best of the Season to you and yours.


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Brad McFall
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Message 40 of 46 (171383)
12-24-2004 8:45 PM
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12-21-2004 11:16 AM


my bad
sorry duplicate post

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Message 41 of 46 (171388)
12-24-2004 8:57 PM
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12-21-2004 11:16 AM


and to all a good niGht
I would like to thank every one who has posted with me over the years. Without EvC I would not have been able to present this summary disposition I am entering for the record.

I can not find any significant truth claims' difference between Dr. Gladyshev's empirics matterially and my elaborations formally. Although this plausibilty is possibly at variance with Louis Agassiz's nouemon it is hard for me to speak in his century AS I track the newness of Georgi's contribution between an unheard of relation of Aristotle and Plato within religious differences of more modern presentation than is generally understood as Western Philosophy and Religion. I will be attempting to abstract a personal identity of thermal currents but this is for the year ahead.

Agassiz wrote,

quote:

Nothing seems to me to prove more directly and more fully the action of a reflective mind, to indicate more plainly a deliberate consideration of the subject than the different categories upon which species, genera, families, orders, classes, and branches are founded in nature and manifested in material reality in a succession of individuals, the life of which is limited in its duration to comparatively very short periods. The great wonder in these relations consists in the fugitive character of the bearers of this complicated harmony. For while species persist during long periods, the individuals which represent them are ever changing, one set dying after the other, in quick succession. Genera, it is true, may extend over longer periods, families, orders, and classes may even have existed during all periods during which animals have existed at all; but whatever may have been the duration of their existence at all times these different divisions have stood in the same relation to one another and to thier respective branches and have always been represented upon our globe in the same manner, by a succession of ever renewed and short-lived individuals.
As, however, the second chapter of this work is entirely devoted to the consideration of different kinds and the different degrees of affinity existing among animals, I will not enter here into any details upon this subject..."
ESSAY ON CLASSIFICATION

If

quote:
in the same relation
denotes the unification of the link between macrokinetics and macrothermodynamics and
quote:
short-lived
connotes those aggregated mixed types of ideal numbers of instructed mixtures minmized by what gave rise the the Gladyshev inequality quality, the reason the subject was not entered is clear if
quote:
at all times
cognizes the realization of macrothermodynamics. The
quote:
respective branches
thus respect the hierarchic thermodynamic empirics of space and time hierarchies not in harmony but the use of the word "comparison" of Louis is now made more univocal.

The grammetical transition lexically unified in this appearence that Louis maintained into the second and succeeding chapters,This result, which is fully exemplified by the history of our science is in intself sufficient to show that there is a system in nature to which the different systems of authors are successive approximations more and more closely agreeing with it, in proportion as the human mind has understood nature better. This growing coincidence between our system and that of nature shews further the identity of the operations of the human and Divine intellect especially when it is remembered to what an extraordinary degree many a priori conceptions, relating to nature, have in the end proved to agree with the reality, in spite of every objection at first offered by empiric observers.depends on my explaining how the idea did not arise in Gould's generation of biologists becuase they had not found it important to notice that Aristotle's form in nature pulls random chance evolution philosophy FROM Nature while Plato's formation only TO coincidence. So unless there are readers finally following me in all this, then that's as far as I can comment for a while. This work was made possible by the interactivity of posters at EvC particularly. I would also like to mention John Davision for getting me past any external biological question I might have had that was resultant from my overly general approach.

Ok, I might not be LEGENDary but I did not drop the ball. Oh, I can't seem to find the long Lam thread on me I worked to some length a few months back.


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Message 42 of 46 (171662)
12-27-2004 4:05 AM


So whad'ja get?
Most interesting item this year was from my mother to my dog: an attachment for my bike that allows him to ride with me. You should see us cruising about in our leather jackets and sunshades, we do turn heads!


Keep America Safe AND Free!
  
arachnophilia
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Message 43 of 46 (171663)
12-27-2004 4:55 AM


what did i get?
overtime hours at work, that's what.
  
Ben!
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Message 44 of 46 (171686)
12-27-2004 9:21 AM
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12-24-2004 8:57 PM


Re: and to all a good night
Brad,

I basically understood... or understood some things in a very basic way. You decide:

Your application of Gladyshev's observations and macrothermodynamic model to Agassiz's quote seemed straightforward to me.

I will be attempting to abstract a personal identity of thermal currents but this is for the year ahead.

This struck me as a particularly interesting extension (or application; I've just started reading so I don't know where Gladyshev has taken his basic principles) of Gladyshev's macrothermodynamic model. I'm very interested to know what result you get from that.

This growing coincidence between our system and that of nature shews further the identity of the operations of the human and Divine intellect

I understand. But I disagree. I guess I'd have two comments:

1. If the world unpredictable (i.e. couldn't be modeled by a set of simple rules) then reproduction and survival become impossible. In other words, this predictability is necessary for life itself.

2. I don't think our minds work deductively in any straightforward way. In other words, our underlying computational power is a complete hack. Our ability to do deductive reasoning, data collection, etc. is simply a failry reliable "hack" which sits uneasily upon some more basic computational principles which indirectly support it.

What I'm getting at is that our "mind" and "understanding" is very different than the divine one that I believe you are conceiving of. I think Edelman in particular would disavow any dualist claim. Mind without hardware is literally untenable. Gottlieb would probably equate it to Haeckel's historically regrettable decision to ignore von Baer's perfectly good German and produce his "infamous biogenetic law."

Aristotle's form in nature pulls random chance evolution philosophy FROM Nature while Plato's formation only TO coincidence

and
an unheard of relation of Aristotle and Plato within religious differences of more modern presentation than is generally understood as Western Philosophy and Religion

I don't understand this yet. Can you help point me in the correct direction for reading up on it?

Anyway, I hope I'm on the right track here. Thanks in advance for bearing with me as I do my best to catch up.

Thanks.
Ben


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Message 45 of 46 (172373)
12-30-2004 7:43 PM
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12-27-2004 9:21 AM


Re: and to all a god night
Ben I will leave this thread headed to:
www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=14&t=366&m=1 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=14&t=366&m=1">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=14&t=366&m=1
under color of the following law. You are certainly PAST Lam's 1) and probably 4). We will see.

I have rough draft for you. More later. This pic could explain how I use Gottlieb and Edleman more broadly then they might. Thank you for understanding that much.


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