War in Iraq, is there a point?

More propaganda about pulling resources out of Afghanistan. FYI, we are still fighting in Afghanistan. The US military is capable of fighting in more than one theater of operation at the same time. We have not given up the hunt for bin Laden, he has gone to ground, sir. He's hiding out like the snake that he is. In the meantime, we have bigger fish to fry, bigger terrorists to hunt down & kill than him. He has been neutralized, even though we haven't yet gotten our hands on him.All you liberals can talk about is bin Laden, as if he's the whole war on terror. Get a grip, he isn't even close to being the whole war.

You better believe we have the most & we're going to continue to have the most. We're the United States of America, pal! Where were you raised? Show some respect & allegiance to this nation for a change, instead of your disrespect & exercising you RIGHT TO DISSENT. We're at war, it's time for you liberals to show some courage, stand up for your country, stand BY your country. You can bitch, bitch, bitch after we've won the war.

"Iraq, while certainly a bad egg of a state, was not responsible for 9/11."Yes, they were. Haven't you read any of the articles I posted????? Saddam & his regime were involved up to their eyeballs. Denial seems to be extremely prevalent within you.

benign???? I wouldn't be worried about a benign force, I assure you Faith.I am actually worried about an overmilitarized nation state that is the most politically powerful nation on earth, but also has the largest national debt on earth. I'm worried about what will happen when those asian banks you guys villify so much finally decide to sell all their greenbacks and send nutcases like Bush into the gutter.I'm also worried about the absurd hipocricy of American's fighting a war against WMD and "terror", when they are the biggest dealers in WMD in the world, the biggest arms traders, the biggest arms developers, and the biggest protection racket running on the planet.

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so if that means that the evil-doers' offspring must endure war wrought by their parents, so be it.

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That is not what you said in your first post; in your first post you were expressing that it is justice that "evil doers" should witness their children being killed.

You misinterpreted what I wrote. I meant that if there must be a war torn country where children are terrified in their beds at night, let it be those of the evil doers, not America's innocent children. And, BTW, all Americans are innocent in this fight against terrorism, not just its children. We are the VICTIMS of Islamic terrorism, not the perpetrators of it. We are defending ourselves. What is the matter with you that you cannot see the distinction here?

That the war in Iraq has trained more terrorist than any other situation could have. And since we started the Iraqi war, then it is our fault for having trained all those terrorists, so we deserve what we get.

Bin Laden, in his tapes, actually makes more sense than you are making here.Americans were the people who funded and encouraged Islamic fundamentalism, both to prop up the extremist Saudis (who you are still propping up, by the way) and to drive the USSR out of western Asia. You seriously need to read a history book.

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We are the VICTIMS of Islamic terrorism, not the perpetrators of it.

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Actually, we ARE the perpetrators of a global imperialism that functions as a kind of terrorism. Chickens coming home to roost and all of that. Since you are saying that it is inevitable for children to be harmed in a war, then you are condoning the harming of the children of the not-so-innocent Americans.

Um, I'm with you FW. I think you meant to be attacking the same guy I was attacking.

You might try addressing what I actually said. I didn't bring up Asian banks, Bush, WMD or anything else, I called you on your perfectly stupid equation of power with evil. There is such a thing as good power. And I thank God we have it and not them because whatever our faults we ARE the good guys and always have been.This message has been edited by Faith, 08-22-2005 09:28 PM

A random stupid attack aimed at the wrong person (rather like Bush in that respect?). Borderline racist, highly jingoistic. Straight from Schwarzenegger.

Crap, this is not where I wanted this thread to go!This is not ment to be a thread with people shouting past each other!Further, the question isn't weather Saddam was a bad guy, if the US is bad, etc.The focus is simple, WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE WAR?Can anyone give a straight answer and back it up?

Faith, Mick's sort of thinking is what led leftists to give our military secrets to Stalin, thinking helping to balance the power was a good thing.He seems to think America is the enemy.

Gad, "Imperialism" yet. You sound like a page straight out of the New Left Handbook for Blaming America First. They DID initiate that accusation and it was part of the strategy for their Marxist Revolution. I wish people would read up on the sixties instead of just swallowing it straight as it's being fed to you all now by the sixties generation grown up to become university professors.I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are sincerely misreading what was written. FW was talking about OUR children NOW having to feel afraid and how unfair that is, not that anything is "inevitable" but that the terrorist attacks were unprovoked attacks on us -- Americans were the victims and American children have had to be afraid because of their evil acts. There was no CONDONING of ANYTHING in that post, just a statement of how the victims have been made afraid unjustly and how our retaliation is just, which includes the recognition that it's only right that the perpetrators should be afraid instead of the victims -- because they ARE the perpetrators -- and if they were afraid that might keep them from doing more harm.