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Author Topic:   For those concerned with Free Speech (or Porn), it is time to get active.
dsv
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Message 2 of 304 (219983)
06-27-2005 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Silent H
06-27-2005 8:29 AM


Represent, represent!

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Message 26 of 304 (220144)
06-27-2005 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Faith
06-27-2005 3:20 PM


Wish the Founders would come back and tell you guys a thing or two.
I suppose they could tell us about their war stories with prostitutes.

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Message 34 of 304 (220153)
06-27-2005 4:56 PM
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06-27-2005 4:52 PM


I'd like to know what sites you run.

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dsv
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Message 55 of 304 (220220)
06-27-2005 8:10 PM
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06-27-2005 5:53 PM


I see. I do quite a bit of technology consulting for the industry. Perhaps I've met you at InterNext or something.
I agree, this impacts a lot more than porn. I have no doubt if this goes on without a large opposing movement there will be a continuation of cencorship initiatives based on "morality" to come -- just like the whole FCC craziness with network television and radio that went on a couple years ago.

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dsv
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Message 107 of 304 (220395)
06-28-2005 9:44 AM


A different thought
One thing Americans seem to do is jump to blame the industry. If you're fat, it must be the fast food industry's fault. Industries evolve for one reason and one reason only: demand. If we wake up tomorrow and everyone hates porn and has sex through a hole in the bed sheet, there would be a lot of porn execs looking for jobs (or releasing porn of bed sheet sex).
One issue I'm thinking of while following the thread is "what came first?"
Like any other business, to a certain extent the consumer has to drive the progression of the merchandise. New and increasingly more "interesting" pornography gets developed because the consumer base is showing that they get bored and move on.
The case might be made that it's the pornographer's fault or the consumer's fault, depending on your position about porn in general. Hard to say really.
The increased exposure and availability via internet must increase the need for new avenues of stimulation, but if there weren't enough eyeballs longing for the content it would not be produced -- it's a business.
If I produced some male-dominant woman-degrading content and lost half my members, you can bet I would be rethinking that angle.
My question is, can we really blame the industry?

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dsv
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Message 119 of 304 (220414)
06-28-2005 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by robinrohan
06-28-2005 10:38 AM


Re: A different thought
Most people do not want to be degraded, but they can be forced to act as though they do.
Forced? Forcing women to have sex is called rape, that's already illegal last time I checked. What does that have to do with being a porn actress as a profession? Don't sell the actresses short on credit too soon.
Plus, some people DO want to be degraded, hence there is a market for that type of pornography from BOTH sides -- male and female.

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dsv
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Message 298 of 304 (222025)
07-05-2005 10:48 PM


Free Speech article on 2257
Just thought I would post this article here:
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/news_events_3.htm
An article on the 2257 enforcement and the "Obscenity Task Force."
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go get my wife a burqa.
This message has been edited by dsv, Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:49 PM

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