boasts of Athiests II

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Onarism

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NO listing in my dictionary. The closest I got was "onanism."

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Try onerous: burdensome; oppressive

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Reality is what you make it. If you wish to live in a dull gray shadow world, fine, that is your option.

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It is only that way though by choice. Wonder and awe and love and beauty and excitement and joy and hapiness are also there if you but accept them and work a little.

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I feel that everyone looks at life through different filters.My engineer husband views life around him differently than his creative wife, me.I am fascinted by how a slight breeze makes the cat's fur move ever so slightly and how the cat turns an ear to noises behind her. My husband sees a critter that ran off with is wrench.Of course when I look under the hood of a souped up mustang I see metal and what my husband sees is a thing of beauty.We also use filters when we listen or read what others say. Our experiences are our filters.Robin perceives boasting due to his own filter on life.I agree and do feel that people are able to change the filter by which they categorize or judge others. But as you said, it takes a bit of desire and work.

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"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz

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Well, I just have to register my disagreement here again. I don't understand this at all. What Robin called boasting simply IS boasting, simply objectively definitionally boasting.

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Then let's look at them objectively.Given that this is a debate forum and the whole purpose for engaging in discussion here is to prove that one's own side is right and the other is wrong or vice versa if one so desires and given that this is a written forum not a visual debate; let's see how the authors of those statements "spoke" with excessive pride about ones own accomplishments, abilities, or possessions. BoastingNow to look at them objectively, one needs to read the statements without projecting emotion onto them. Unlike a book, posts here do not come with hints as to the author's emotions. Sometimes we can discern obvious anger, but IMO, there is a certain desire behind boasting which I don't believe these posts contain. This article describes that desire very well. Now with that in mind and without adding emotion to the words, read the first quote in context which I discussed in Message 17.Since this is a debate forum and support for one's position is needed, the author uses his own life as an example to refute the comment. He can only speak to the facts of his own life and not anyone elses. Without project emotion, do you see the statement as an intent to hurt or to refute?Again in Message 41 do you read an intent to hurt or to correct a misconception? Self-praise in and of itself is not boasting and has its place. Boasting has more of a negative intent behind it as stated above.I don't think either writer overstated their truth to the degree that it has no basis in reality or were stated to hurt or make anyone feel inferior.If you feel that they have, please be specific as to what statements have no basis in reality or were designed to make anyone feel inferior.Remember stay objective, don't project.

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"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz