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Taz
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Message 50 of 519 (471276)
06-15-2008 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Hyroglyphx
06-15-2008 8:20 PM


Re: Remediation in English
Nem, I don't think it is a coincidence that everytime you debate about this everyone always sees you equivocating homosexuality with pedophila, incest, rape, etc. Now, remember that I haven't even said anything yet. I'll let other people decide.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 57 of 519 (471296)
06-15-2008 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Hyroglyphx
06-15-2008 8:46 PM


Re: Remediation in English
Nem writes:
I don't think its a coincidence either. I think its intentional, to try and derail my premise.
Um, no.
How do you gross someone out when he is eating something? You start describing to him what poop looks like and what it smells like. If that doesn't work, you start describing vomit. If that doesn't do it, you can start giving some examples.
Eventually, someone might want to point out to you that the sandwich is nothing like poop or vomit and so your equivocation is not just. But hang on, you say, you're not equivocating them at all.
Nem, that's what you're doing. Technically, you're not equivocating homosexuality with incest. But please, we're not dumb enough to fall for it. You can continue to play your game all you want. I really have nothing more to say. Like I said, it's not a coincidence that almost everyone sees your argument as a snide against gay people by equivocating them to rapists and pedos.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 68 of 519 (471365)
06-16-2008 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by FliesOnly
06-16-2008 11:44 AM


You know, sometimes I wish we have a fallacy of playing dumb. CS's and hoot's playing dumb style is annoying as hell.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 75 of 519 (471394)
06-16-2008 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by New Cat's Eye
06-16-2008 12:35 PM


CS writes:
I'm not playing dumb
I wonder how many people actually believe you on this one.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 88 of 519 (471444)
06-16-2008 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Hyroglyphx
06-16-2008 5:16 PM


Here we go again.
Nem writes:
So the premise of homosexuality is that it is a completely natural occurrence, and to try and force them to be sexual towards the opposite sex is like trying to swim upstream.
And if you had been paying attention to what I have been saying for at least a year now, so what if homosexuality is completely a choice? Seriously, so what?
Pursuit of happiness without violating other people's rights is one of the most valued aspects of our civilization. If you are straight, being with the person you love and getting recognized by the state for that love + all the rights that come with the recognition IS the most single most sort after and recognized value in our civilization. But apparently, if you're gay (whether you chose to be or not) then it's off limits.
In the meantime, I am sympathetic somewhat to the plight facing homosexuals. At the same time, I'm somewhat sympathetic to the plight of those offering a caveat. To me it seems like civil unions would be a good place to start, because it offers a compromise that both parties shouldn't reasonably object to... at least in my opinion, anyhow.
Nem, we've already tried the seperate but equal crap in the past. Worked great in theory until you put it to practice.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 90 of 519 (471458)
06-16-2008 11:41 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Hyroglyphx
06-16-2008 5:16 PM


Re: Remediation in English
By the way, here is an interesting MSNBC article.
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quote:
LONDON - Gay men and straight women share some characteristics in the area of the brain responsible for emotion, mood and anxiety, researchers said on Monday in a study highlighting the potential biological underpinning of sexuality.
Brain scans also showed the same symmetry among lesbians and straight men, the researchers wrote in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
“The observations cannot be easily attributed to perception or behavior,” the researchers from Sweden’s Karolinska Institute wrote. “Whether they may relate to processes laid down during the fetal or postnatal development is an open question.”
A number of studies have looked at the roles genetic, biological and environmental factors play in sexual orientation but little evidence exists that any plays an all-important role. Many scientists believe both nature and nurture play a part.
Brain scans of 90 volunteers showed that the brains of heterosexual men and homosexual women were slightly asymmetric with the right hemisphere slightly larger than the left, Ivanka Savic and Pers Lindstrom wrote. The brains of gay men and heterosexual women were not.
Then they measured blood flow to the amygdala ” the area key for the “fight-or-flight” response ” and found it was wired in a similar fashion in gay men and heterosexual women as well as lesbians and heterosexual men.
The researchers added that the study cannot say whether the differences in brain shape are inherited or due to exposure to hormones such as testosterone in the womb and if they are responsible for sexual orientation.
But this is something they plan to look at in a further study of newborn babies to see if it can help predict future sexual orientation.
“These observations motivate more extensive investigations of larger study groups and prompt for a better understanding of the neurobiology of homosexuality,” they wrote.
A simple question. If they ever solve the puzzle and prove once and for all that homosexuality is biologically based, will you then STHU?

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 96 of 519 (471534)
06-17-2008 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by lyx2no
06-17-2008 9:33 AM


Re: EQUIVOCATION?
Remember the smart people thread? Nem misused the word but instead of correcting him we all just went along with it. Now, be a nice little boy and don't stir up any trouble.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 101 of 519 (471558)
06-17-2008 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Fosdick
06-17-2008 11:27 AM


Re: How The Gays Did Me In
Muahahahahahahahah!
Seriously, hoot. Once upon a time, I was in middle school. Yes, I was once a kid. While I was in line for lunch, a really big nigger just shoved everyone over and made his way up the line. When he got to me, I stood my ground and shoved him back. Now, remember that this guy was at least twice as big as I was. I also noticed that he was hiding food that he eventually didn't pay for.
Later that day while I was in the bathroom, that same nigger came in to the bathroom with 4 other niggers. 2 guarded the door and 2 held me to the wall while the big one slapped me up and down and yelled the typical nigger slangs into my face. He ended it with a climatic punch in the stomach.
See, I've always been somewhat of a racist. To this day, I still have irrational negative feelings toward black people. And I assure you, these feelings have no rational basis whatsoever. It's just something that got stuck in my psyche.
You'll have to take my word for it that my somewhat recurring racist feelings do not interfere with how I see Obama. Now, who the fuck would believe that last sentence?

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 104 of 519 (471566)
06-17-2008 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Jester4kicks
06-17-2008 1:08 PM


God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
The Bill of Rights gives you freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 113 of 519 (471626)
06-17-2008 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Jester4kicks
06-17-2008 1:44 PM


Jester writes:
Would you care to tell me how the government is supposed to enforce religious morality without actually relying on a particular religion?
This country was founded on Christian principles. It should have remained so. The only reason this country is going downward is because we are allowing heathens and heretics to roam freely on our streets. It's time Christians should take back this country.
Furthermore, your picket-line wisdom seems to indicate that everyone is free to make their own decisions about religion... but that they will still be bound by someone else's religion.
Jesus is the only way toward salvation. If you want to live in this country that was founded on Christian principles, then following Christ is the only right way to live your life.
You seriously read the establishment clause... and THAT's the rational conclusion you came to?
I don't need to read anything to know that this country was founded on Christian princples. The founding fathers were Christians. This is one nation under GOD.

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Taz
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Message 117 of 519 (471711)
06-17-2008 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Fosdick
06-17-2008 7:10 PM


Re: Taz is trolling
It's called a preemptive strike. In a thread like this, there's bound to be someone that will say the exact words I just said. Thought I'd get it out of the way first.

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Taz
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Message 121 of 519 (471738)
06-17-2008 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by Fosdick
06-17-2008 7:24 PM


Re: The science of being gay.
Jesus Christ, hoot, did you just selectively ignore my post 90 regarding brain comparason between various groups in regard to their sexuality and gender?

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 129 of 519 (471808)
06-18-2008 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by ramoss
06-18-2008 9:33 AM


Re: Remediation in English
ramoss writes:
One couple that got married in California this last week was a lesbian couple that had been togather 40 years.
Correction, 50+ years. I'm pretty sure this beats hoot's 1 year hetero marriage as he confessed in this thread.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 169 of 519 (472134)
06-20-2008 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by New Cat's Eye
06-20-2008 2:57 PM


Re: Don't civil unions do enough for legal purposes?
You remind me of the neo-nazi I talked to a couple years ago who complained that they were being persecuted by society for having "a different opinion".

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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Taz
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Message 172 of 519 (472226)
06-21-2008 2:43 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by Rrhain
06-21-2008 1:55 AM


Rrhain writes:
If it was a pile of crap when applied to race, what makes it suddenly such a valid argument when applied to sexual orientation?
This is why I think CS, hoot mon, and other bigots here are playing dumb when it comes to this argument. I think they are smart enough to see that their line of reasoning is the same line of reasoning used against the Lovings back in the 60's. But for some darn reason, they think that the rest of us are stupid enough to not see through their thinly veiled bullshit argument.
Either they are stupid enough to not see that the line of reasoning is a pile of crap or that they are purposely lying, which violates one of their 10 commandments.
Anyway, I guess I've been too frustrated to really engage in a deep conversation about this topic.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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