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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Nem, I don't think it is a coincidence that everytime you debate about this everyone always sees you equivocating homosexuality with pedophila, incest, rape, etc. Now, remember that I haven't even said anything yet. I'll let other people decide.
I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Nem writes:
Um, no. I don't think its a coincidence either. I think its intentional, to try and derail my premise. How do you gross someone out when he is eating something? You start describing to him what poop looks like and what it smells like. If that doesn't work, you start describing vomit. If that doesn't do it, you can start giving some examples. Eventually, someone might want to point out to you that the sandwich is nothing like poop or vomit and so your equivocation is not just. But hang on, you say, you're not equivocating them at all. Nem, that's what you're doing. Technically, you're not equivocating homosexuality with incest. But please, we're not dumb enough to fall for it. You can continue to play your game all you want. I really have nothing more to say. Like I said, it's not a coincidence that almost everyone sees your argument as a snide against gay people by equivocating them to rapists and pedos. I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
You know, sometimes I wish we have a fallacy of playing dumb. CS's and hoot's playing dumb style is annoying as hell.
I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
CS writes:
I wonder how many people actually believe you on this one. I'm not playing dumb I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Nem writes:
And if you had been paying attention to what I have been saying for at least a year now, so what if homosexuality is completely a choice? Seriously, so what? So the premise of homosexuality is that it is a completely natural occurrence, and to try and force them to be sexual towards the opposite sex is like trying to swim upstream. Pursuit of happiness without violating other people's rights is one of the most valued aspects of our civilization. If you are straight, being with the person you love and getting recognized by the state for that love + all the rights that come with the recognition IS the most single most sort after and recognized value in our civilization. But apparently, if you're gay (whether you chose to be or not) then it's off limits.
In the meantime, I am sympathetic somewhat to the plight facing homosexuals. At the same time, I'm somewhat sympathetic to the plight of those offering a caveat. To me it seems like civil unions would be a good place to start, because it offers a compromise that both parties shouldn't reasonably object to... at least in my opinion, anyhow.
Nem, we've already tried the seperate but equal crap in the past. Worked great in theory until you put it to practice. I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
By the way, here is an interesting MSNBC article.
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quote: A simple question. If they ever solve the puzzle and prove once and for all that homosexuality is biologically based, will you then STHU? I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Remember the smart people thread? Nem misused the word but instead of correcting him we all just went along with it. Now, be a nice little boy and don't stir up any trouble.
I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Muahahahahahahahah!
Seriously, hoot. Once upon a time, I was in middle school. Yes, I was once a kid. While I was in line for lunch, a really big nigger just shoved everyone over and made his way up the line. When he got to me, I stood my ground and shoved him back. Now, remember that this guy was at least twice as big as I was. I also noticed that he was hiding food that he eventually didn't pay for. Later that day while I was in the bathroom, that same nigger came in to the bathroom with 4 other niggers. 2 guarded the door and 2 held me to the wall while the big one slapped me up and down and yelled the typical nigger slangs into my face. He ended it with a climatic punch in the stomach. See, I've always been somewhat of a racist. To this day, I still have irrational negative feelings toward black people. And I assure you, these feelings have no rational basis whatsoever. It's just something that got stuck in my psyche. You'll have to take my word for it that my somewhat recurring racist feelings do not interfere with how I see Obama. Now, who the fuck would believe that last sentence? I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
The Bill of Rights gives you freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Edited by Taz, : No reason given. I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Jester writes:
This country was founded on Christian principles. It should have remained so. The only reason this country is going downward is because we are allowing heathens and heretics to roam freely on our streets. It's time Christians should take back this country.
Would you care to tell me how the government is supposed to enforce religious morality without actually relying on a particular religion? Furthermore, your picket-line wisdom seems to indicate that everyone is free to make their own decisions about religion... but that they will still be bound by someone else's religion.
Jesus is the only way toward salvation. If you want to live in this country that was founded on Christian principles, then following Christ is the only right way to live your life.
You seriously read the establishment clause... and THAT's the rational conclusion you came to?
I don't need to read anything to know that this country was founded on Christian princples. The founding fathers were Christians. This is one nation under GOD.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
It's called a preemptive strike. In a thread like this, there's bound to be someone that will say the exact words I just said. Thought I'd get it out of the way first.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Jesus Christ, hoot, did you just selectively ignore my post 90 regarding brain comparason between various groups in regard to their sexuality and gender?
I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
ramoss writes:
Correction, 50+ years. I'm pretty sure this beats hoot's 1 year hetero marriage as he confessed in this thread. One couple that got married in California this last week was a lesbian couple that had been togather 40 years. I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
You remind me of the neo-nazi I talked to a couple years ago who complained that they were being persecuted by society for having "a different opinion".
I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Rrhain writes:
This is why I think CS, hoot mon, and other bigots here are playing dumb when it comes to this argument. I think they are smart enough to see that their line of reasoning is the same line of reasoning used against the Lovings back in the 60's. But for some darn reason, they think that the rest of us are stupid enough to not see through their thinly veiled bullshit argument. If it was a pile of crap when applied to race, what makes it suddenly such a valid argument when applied to sexual orientation? Either they are stupid enough to not see that the line of reasoning is a pile of crap or that they are purposely lying, which violates one of their 10 commandments. Anyway, I guess I've been too frustrated to really engage in a deep conversation about this topic. I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.
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