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Author Topic:   Why only one Grand Canyon
edge
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Message 44 of 85 (160292)
11-16-2004 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Lysimachus
11-16-2004 11:09 PM


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1. The fact that over 70% of the earth is still covered in water and that there is evidence of water erosion on the highest parts of all continents.
Ummm, did you ever think of exactly WHERE erosion occurs?
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2. That the boat shaped object in easter Turkey not only matches the exact dimensions of the Bible and the Koran, but it is EXACTLY situated on the spot where Berosus, the Babylonian priest, specified its location by crossing two lines and having the boat shaped object directly under the crossing point of these two lines.
Yeah, well... too bad it's not a boat...
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It's fairly simple. Anyone who does a thorough study on David Fasold's research will see that there is some pretty hardcore data here to chew on.
'Simple' being the operative word.

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edge
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Message 46 of 85 (160594)
11-17-2004 3:11 PM
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11-16-2004 11:45 PM


Working at it...
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Edge, if you're not going to bother to flesh out what you object to then don't bother wasting time with a post that doesn't really have any content.
Well, I didn't want to embarass anyone by stating the obvious, but if you insist, I shall in the future. Besides, it was phrased as a question. I planned to get into details later. Sorry if this violates protocol.

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edge
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Message 75 of 85 (163410)
11-26-2004 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Lysimachus
11-25-2004 6:39 PM


Re: The flood and David Fasold.
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1. The fact that over 70% of the earth is still covered in water and that there is evidence of water erosion on the highest parts of all continents.
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Ummm, did you ever think of exactly WHERE erosion occurs?
Depends on what type of erosion you’re aiming your argument at. If I might be more specific, it was water erosion I spoke of. You must remember that simply because there is not evidence for water erosion "everywhere" that this does not necessarily mean there was no water in contact with that vicinity. ...
I assume that I can answer this part of the post since it is, ostensibly, about erosion, and the GC is an erosional feature.
One question before going any further.
Do you agree that 'water erosion' is occurring on virtually all land surfaces of the earth at this time? In other words, is erosion occurring near where you live? If so, where is the flood?
In general terms, erosion is the wearing down of the land surface (composed of rocks and the products of their weathering), under the physical action of the environment, mainly processes involving water, but ice, wind, mass wasting and chemical processes are also important. The point here is that these things occur above base level (ultimately, that would be sea level). These are the processes that create the sediment that is ultimately deposited in the sea. So if we have erosion and sedimentation, there there MUST be geological bodies ABOVE sea level.
My next question is: during a global flood, how do you have the widespread erosion necessary to create the vast amount of sediments that are being deposited during the flood when there are supposed to be no emergent land masses?
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On rereading your post, I see that you seem to be confused as to what is erosion, and what is deposition.
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If all the water had been turbulent, every rock and natural formation we see would reveal evidence of water erosion.
Do not worry: I have seen this condition before in YECs. It is reversible. I suppose I should first point out that erosion and deposition are not the same things. Sediments deposited by 'turbulent' water are indeed eroded from somewhere, but their present state is related to how/where and when they were deposited.
Is this what you are talking about? In either case (erosion or deposition), you need to explain where the sediments came from, particularly the ones deposited in 'turbulent water' if there are no land masses to be eroded. You will also need to explain their areal extent in relation to erosional unconformities, and other geological observations. I think you will find this to be a difficult task since it runs counter to centuries of previous geological research. However, I look forward to your explanations.

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