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Author Topic:   Fox news must die, CNN too
Verzem
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Message 8 of 51 (159073)
11-13-2004 1:17 PM


I need to check out MSNBC a bit more, I guess. But I will not watch FOX. I have in the past and felt like I was being spoon-fed nothing but propaganda. Comparatively, CNN seems fair and balanced to me.
Personally, I have taken exception to the media's choice of words ever since the massacre at Waco, Texas. If you'll all remember, the church grounds there were continually referred to as a "compound", insinuating something kind of military. Also, the people inside were never called Christians, they were nothing but "cultists". In short, we were programmed to be against them. It really sucked. It does now, too.
Verzem

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Verzem
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Message 16 of 51 (159393)
11-14-2004 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Rrhain
11-13-2004 2:50 PM


Rrhain,
I could care less if some people in a church like to shoot pop cans off of fenceposts, or even just feel a paranoia (for whatever reason) to build up a weapons cache. The only valid point to consider is that the Branch Davidians posed absolutely no threat to the public.
David Koresch was just man who wanted to make some extra money to use for building some extra church buildings on their property. So, he dealt in guns on the weekends at gun shows because it was something he had some expertise in and could earn the money he needed. What a criminal!!
Also, it is not for you or me to judge the practices of people in other religions. AFAIK, no laws were broken by them. The parents of the young girls gave their approval. No one "had to have" sex with Koresch. There were no rapes. It was all consensual. There were no children involved, they were teen-agers. I think it is a bit young myself, but it is really none of my business.
I'm afraid that you bought into the dis-information hook, line, and sinker. That is why the gov't. does this kind of thing. It works.
"Cult is the church down the street from yours."
Verzem

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Verzem
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Message 22 of 51 (159597)
11-15-2004 4:19 AM


I have no intention of getting into a big discussion of the FBI murders at Waco, TX. It will only distract from this thread. I only brought it up to make an example of how the government spoon-feeds us dis-information. Sometimes this is done by using certain key words that help build certain prejudices. These can be words like: cult, compound, and as we now know, terrorists.
It helps build up the we are good, they are bad attitudes in the general public. And yes, it is so powerful, it can even be used to win elections. We just proved that.
What we really are, is duped.
Verzem

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Verzem
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Message 34 of 51 (159799)
11-15-2004 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by CK
11-15-2004 4:44 AM


Charles,
Your continued use of the word "compound" over a decade later further reinforces the point I am making about being led by our government to have certain prejudices that end up being favorable to the government's future planned actions. Once they have the public brainwashed into thinking they are bad then it becomes much more acceptable to burn them to death, or whatever the action might become. And again, I'm not going to get into a debate here about our differing views on the events of Waco.
Now, if you happen to refer to every church grounds as "compounds", then I might retract my statement, in your case.
I think the general point being made is that what our media are calling "terrorists" are "freedom-fighters" in the eyes of others. The debates on what constitutes terrorism are very interesting.
We musn't take everything we are being fed by our media as factual. I am getting better at being able to know when I'm being "fed" some information. I hope to get really good at it some day.
Verzem

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