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The guys that kidnap people and cut off their heads are terrorists, yes.But the guys that set up the IRD's and ambush military convoys, how is that terrorism? It's obvious that there's two separate groups at work in Iraq - the jihadist terrorists, using media and violence to shape Arab opinion; and the ex-army insurgency using their training and resources to attack our army.How is what they're doing terrorism? They're attacking military forces who have illegally occupied their country. (Whether or not our invasion of Iraq was legitimate or justified, it was certainly illegal.) What about that is terrorism?Oh, by the way, I'm sure you're about to call me all manner of unpleasant, anti-American names. Don't even bother. What you do is worse - when you dilute the meaning of the word "terrorism", you diminish the significant of every victim of terror. What's happening in Iraq is soldier-vs.-soldier. Only someone blinded by their own jingosim would dare refer to that as "terrorism."

Based on an interpretation of international law that is, at best, unique: that violation of the terms of a decade-old cease-fire is justification for the resumption of war against that nation.I'm sure Britain would "disagree with me." At this point, they have a rather vested interest in being "right", don't you think?

And yet I think the fact that they're in a small minority of legal minds on the subject validates my statement.Just as the existence of creation scientists doesn't alter the fact that evolution is certainly the only valid scientific theory currently on the subject.

No, they're not. The kidnapping guys are Islamic jihadists from Iraq and other countries.The guys dropping mortar shells into American camps and ambushing convoys are former Iraqi soldiers.I thought I had made it clear that these aren't the same people. Well hell, we did all those things too, only it was to topple the old government, not the new one.I mean, if we can justify the deaths of Iraqi citizens as collateral damage to overthrow a regime, why can't they? Oh, right. Because they're not us. Well, they are. They represent the regime that we deposed. Look, I don't think they're good guys. I don't think that what they do is good, or that the side they're on is the right one. But they're on a legitimate side. I wouldn't call a German soldier in WWII a "terrorist" just because he was on the other side.The guys cutting off the heads are not on a legitimate "side". But the ex-military guys lobbing mortars at us are. Oh, so in your view, everyone who isn't with us is a terrorist? When did I ever say these were the "good guys"? I'll see your 100 innocent Iraqis, and raise you the 100,000 innocent Iraqis that we killed. The conclusions you come to are so littered with double-standards that I can't comprehend it. Well, actually, I can - anything the US does is Right, anything anyone else does is Right only in regards to how much we agree with it, and anyone who opposes us is not only Wrong, they're a TERRORIST.Would you have called German soldiers in WWII "terrorists", because they were on the other side? That seems so stupid to me that I can't imagine an intelligent person would. But you might surprise me in your next post.AbE: Look, I mean, it sucks when these ex-military insurgents lob a mortar and kill our soldiers. I hate that. But calling them "terrorists" for doing so is as stupid and immature as when a bully complains about being hit back.This message has been edited by crashfrog, 11-15-2004 03:31 PM

Oh, and while I'm at it, I'll throw in the family of five we shot to death as they tried to flee Fallujah:

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In the weeks before the crushing military assault on his hometown, Bilal Hussein sent his parents and brother away from Fallujah to stay with relatives.

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The 33-year-old Associated Press photographer stayed behind to capture insider images during the siege of the former insurgent stronghold.

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Hussein moved from house to house ” dodging gunfire ” and reached the river.

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"I decided to swim ... but I changed my mind after seeing U.S. helicopters firing on and killing people who tried to cross the river."

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He watched horrified as a family of five was shot dead as they tried to cross. Then, he "helped bury a man by the river bank, with my own hands."

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Oh, right. I forgot. When we kill Iraqis, it's collateral damage. When they kill Iraqis, its because they're evil terrorists. Oh, wait - maybe it was the family of five that were the terrorists? Or maybe the reporter or the AP are the terrorists. No, wait, it's me who's the terrorist, for showing the story to you.