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nator
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Message 19 of 325 (375400)
01-08-2007 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
01-03-2007 10:30 PM


RAZD,
You are in my thoughts.
Fight hard, man!
(Pssst...you look damn good bald!)
Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

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Message 50 of 325 (399600)
05-06-2007 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by RAZD
05-05-2007 8:25 PM


Re: so it begins
All my good thoughts and love are with you, RAZD.

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 100 of 325 (404819)
06-09-2007 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by Buzsaw
06-09-2007 10:24 PM


Re: Double Blind Study
quote:
As cancer is often associated with high levels of free radicals produced by oxidation and toxic carcinogens,
With what method of inquiry was this mechanism discovered?
Where can I view the data? Has it been accepted by the greater scientific community?
Upon what basis do you consider it accurate?
quote:
herbs which act as powerful free radical scavengers are always valuable.
With what method of inquiry was this mechanism discovered for each of the herbs you list?
Where can I view the data? Has it been accepted by the greater scientific community?
Upon what basis do you consider it accurate?

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nator
Member (Idle past 2279 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 121 of 325 (405311)
06-12-2007 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by Buzsaw
06-11-2007 11:15 PM


Re: Double Blind Study
quote:
I've furnished the info for RAZD to do what he wishes about. Your questions are thread topics in themselves and I haven't the time to go into all the question topics you raise. My statements are my opinion based on my experience with alternatives in general as to how they've helped me and my family avoid the MDs nearly all my life, in the 70s now, still physically active and productive.
I've observed and heard about scores of others who have likewise been benefited.
Here's the thing buz.
Unless you can show me the evidence, your claims mean nothing. Absolutely nothing. You have given no reason whatsoever for anyone to believe you.
You make claim after claim after claim but never, ever support them with actual evidence when asked. I am just glad that RAZD has a good head on his shoulders and isn't likely to just believe your vague assurances and baseless, quack health claims.
You are full of hot air, my friend, and are lazy to boot.

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Message 122 of 325 (405312)
06-12-2007 7:51 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by Buzsaw
06-12-2007 12:05 AM


Re: Double Blind Study
quote:
I'm not aware of any, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that healthy natural eating and habits win out over the conventional diet full of chemical, drugs and junk food.
By what method was it discovered that certain foods were more nutritious than others, and that certain foods contain anti-cancer compounds?
What method of inquiry was used, Buz?

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nator
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Message 129 of 325 (405576)
06-13-2007 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by DorfMan
06-12-2007 11:31 AM


Re: Double Blind Study
quote:
Is it not logical to determine that certain foods are more healthful than others?
Sure.
But how do we figure that out? What method do we use? How do we discover how and why certain compounds (like antioxidants) found in some foods tend to prevent cancer and other ailments?
Some populations consume lots of what we in the west would consider "bad for us", yet have a longer life expectancy, and generally less disease. I've mentioned the Okinowans to you before, some of the most long-lived and disease-free people on earth also consume pork nearly every day. The French smoke a lot and eat a lot of saturated fat as a percentage of their diet, but have less heart disease than Americans. The Swiss eat twice as much chocolate per year as Americans, yet their incidence of diabetes is far, far less that Americans'.
Deciding what food is "bad" and what is "good", and in what proportions one should eat anything, if at all, is a rather complex equation.
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Yes, healthful food makes you fart and gives new meaning to togetherness, but you can most certainly avoid the carcinogens in animal flesh and many additives.
There are carcinogens in certain vegetables too, you know. And saturated fats and other compounds known to be detrimental to health.
We evolved to eat animal protein. That's why strict vegans usually have to take supplemental synthetic vitamins to get what their bodies require (vegans have a hard time getting B vitamins).
quote:
There is so much time and effort taken about diet and health, there must be reasons.
It's the other way around, you know.
The reason people take so much time and effort with their diet and health is because science has been steadily teasing out the biochemistry, bit by bit, and has then informed the practical nutrition and medical fields.
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As for Buz? I'm with him on taking care about what I eat.
I take care in what I eat, too, but I do not base my food choices upon myth and misinformation like you and he

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