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Brad McFall
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Message 256 of 300 (206369)
05-09-2005 6:42 AM
Reply to: Message 255 by Tony650
05-09-2005 4:28 AM


truthful word in reporting
Truth was that this was not me but ALlEN BENTON.
evcurl where author is properly attributed
I had a nice conversation with him last summer about niche construction and galls at my grandma's 95th birthday party. I let it go because I figured that
Nighttrain (on letter "o"z"o" and a mapetc)
knew and could correct anyone who didnt know which thread the post came from. In further invelopments I had merely taken it from another creation/evolution site where I HAD posted even more of Alan's stuff because I was getting annoyed there (not evc) and I thought the readers could use a break (something like our "coffe house"). Sorry for not making the change earlier.
Dr.Benton was a flea and mouse expert before he retired. He was one of the scientists of my childhood. He was one of the first teachers to fill the new science building at SUNY Fredonia my grandfather designed. His poems are great and his short stories about various creatures are also interesting. I dont know if you still want some of them since they are not from my pen.
In fact I AM NOT this good at writing. He still writes a weekly Nature section in the local Chataqua paper.

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Tony650
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Message 257 of 300 (206706)
05-10-2005 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 256 by Brad McFall
05-09-2005 6:42 AM


Re: truthful word in reporting
Oh, you didn't write it? Damn, I liked it, too. Oh well, sorry about the misunderstanding. Thanks for the correction.
Brad writes:
I dont know if you still want some of them since they are not from my pen.
Not specifically, but don't let that stop you. Others may still be interested if you wish to post more. I was interested because I thought you wrote it and, frankly, I find you fascinating.
Anyway, no harm done. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Brad McFall
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From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 258 of 300 (206715)
05-10-2005 9:17 AM
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05-10-2005 8:35 AM


Re: truthful word in reporting
It is really not appropriate for me to ask Fitzwarren (Allen's pen name) if "sWard" is my grandmother's maiden name and Stanley my granddad below with Falls"" me as in the previous for you noticed quite rightly that Benton's literature work is good just as it is without adding my hubris. He told me last summer as we got into talking that a professor once told him that he looked like "death warmed over". I guess that is the price for writing good stuff.
Anyway the sward has not changed a bit since he was"king" writing things like
and
while I, BSM wrote within in the same decade:
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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 259 of 300 (206746)
05-10-2005 11:00 AM
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08-01-2004 11:22 AM


thanks it meant a lot
IT looks like it is getting even darker"" for me as I must've sliPed into Holmes's last 25%. Northwestern is not Northeastern-but now I have Ben to interpret... I am still looking for someone onthis (~your side). This style of the letter E was introduced by Mercator(THE BOOK NOBODY READ by Owen Gingerich page241) and my scaled off scales of a creationist's mud turtle...the same, I guess, if still to the right.

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Brad McFall
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Message 260 of 300 (206747)
05-10-2005 11:03 AM
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08-01-2004 11:22 AM


thanks it meant a lot
dp opcit
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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 261 of 300 (210018)
05-20-2005 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by arachnophilia
07-31-2004 1:53 PM


Re: the dong show
This has gone way beyond Lam's avatar morphing capabilities. Mam-my's Ithaca is oblivious! I am not just playing around with you all. You waste too much time here on EvC in the wake of the fin again without gain. You really haven't asked me anything lately. So if you really can not understand me, try to understand Gould's use of the word "recursion . He attached it maximally to the SQUARE below. Please DO read if anypart CHAPTER FOUR "Internalism and Laws of Form: Pre-Darwinian Alternatives to Functionalism."
SOETH
I have situated in that above and the two below what I will try to work out as to the extremes of Stephen's line but note in the above I have not rejected today as Dr. Gould did, Darwin's reference to use/disuse nor direct action of the external environment.

Good luck for this IS ALL DOABLE on evc if we work it out and dont just lump the sky hook and providence. The logic will remain no matter what incomensurabilities continue. I can only be globally wrong in this particular geometrization if the plurivocal nature of the word "frequency" won't come out of Derrida's reading on Husserl's Halle.
See also my individuated position/%
&
Material taken from:
The Institute for Creation Research
Botanical Society of America
Fachbereich Biologie : Universität Hamburg
Ivy lenticel
Expansion tissue
Frolich's THEORY OF DIELECTRICS
Gould's THE Structure of eVOlutionary Theory
"Colloids Their Properties and Applications" by WARD
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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 262 of 300 (233213)
08-14-2005 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by coffee_addict
07-29-2004 1:06 PM


5)
Gaw-Snow's snow removal sevice brought out what appears a #5 of me in my e-mail today. If no one responds to this post I wont add any more of this kind of stuff. I dont know if there is still any interest in the thread about me. Best. Brad.
From :
Sent : Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:38 AM
To :
Subject : evcforum
| | | Inbox
I was reading the posts on the Evolution/symmetry thread. Every time you post something to add to the topic there’s a 50/50 chance that I have no idea what you said. Everyone else just continues like it was so insightful but I am usually left clueless. I read JRR Tolkein books in my spare time and don’t find myself re-reading, for understanding, quite as often as your posts. Is it a problem for you to have such a mastery of the English language that people often don’t understand you? It’s like Goodwill Hunting with you quoting names and stuff. If you are wondering whether or not I am just some creationist layperson the fact is that I am an evolutionist layperson. Have a nice day and I look forward to deciphering more of your posts.
SrA David Lawrence
407 EOSS/Det 2
445-2153
Why would they give us a tank if nobody
knows how to drive the damned thing?"
-Church from RvB
I am taking a written English class this semester so EvCers will be able to judge by the time Santa Claws again.
GS's top ten reasons Brad can leap captial DLetterman in a single day (every day)
quote:
5) Does anyone know if he is actively trying to be confusing or is he confusing by nature?
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Message 263 of 300 (233269)
08-14-2005 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Brad McFall
08-14-2005 6:37 PM


Who's Afraid of Brad McFall?
I'm sorry to see you're getting emails like that, Brad, but rest assured there is still plenty of interest in you.
I'm happy to see that you'll be taking that course, but to be honest I hope you don't clean up your writing too much. The mystery you create can be intriguing. Sometimes I'm left feeling like the characters Nick and Honey must have felt after their evening with George and Martha in the play Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, albeit without the emotional drainage.
Speaking of Woolf, your writing style can sometimes be reminiscent of hers.
There! Now, at long last, I've found at least one connection between that play and the historical Virginia Woolf (something I've wondered about for years). Both can remind me of you.

"I think younger workers first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is." George W. Bush, May 4, 2005

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jar
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Message 264 of 300 (233274)
08-14-2005 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Brad McFall
08-14-2005 6:37 PM


Re: 5)
Brad.
That's a nice one compared to those I get. If you want, forward the email to me with all of the header information and I'll see what can be done.
AbE:
By the way, it's from a new member (Lionidas) that hasn't even posted a single message. I'd say that makes your contribution many times more valuable than his.
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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5032 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 265 of 300 (233338)
08-15-2005 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 264 by jar
08-14-2005 10:42 PM


Re: 5)
Ok, thanks, I feel better. I will forward these EvC mails directly to you in the future and not give them a second thought unless they post directly to a thread here on this website. I did respond to this possible poster personally with an occluded reference to Gingerich's book about Copernicus.
Also to BB above...thanks again. It has been you most of all here that has kept the ditch above the gutter.

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Tony650
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Message 266 of 300 (233342)
08-15-2005 7:55 AM
Reply to: Message 262 by Brad McFall
08-14-2005 6:37 PM


Re: 5)
Hi Brad.
Please don't let anyone put you off posting here. I can't speak for anybody else but I like you and find you quite interesting. You may well be the single most unique poster on EvC, and I think that fact, alone, makes your contributions here worthwhile.
Brad writes:
I am taking a written English class this semester so EvCers will be able to judge by the time Santa Claws again.
Hey, that's great, Brad! Maybe we'll finally be able to get inside that extraordinary mind of yours. All the best with your class. Hope you do well.
Brad writes:
GS's top ten reasons Brad can leap captial DLetterman in a single day (every day)
Now there's a Top Ten list I'd like to see: Top ten things said by Brad McFall on EvC forum.
P.S. Did you see my...er..."tribute" to you in the EVC forum: a play thread? If you missed it, it's message #26. I'm actually interested to see if you can make any sense of what I wrote. I may have unwittingly said something in your language.
And you know... no offense and all that. It's meant in good humour.

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Tony650
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Message 267 of 300 (233343)
08-15-2005 7:58 AM
Reply to: Message 263 by berberry
08-14-2005 10:28 PM


Re: Who's Afraid of Brad McFall?
berberry writes:
I'm happy to see that you'll be taking that course, but to be honest I hope you don't clean up your writing too much. The mystery you create can be intriguing.
I'm somewhat of two minds myself. On the one hand, I'd like to get inside Brad's head a bit as he seems to have plenty in there worth sharing. On the other hand, I think part of what makes him "Brad" is the cloak of mystery that surrounds him. I admit that part of me doesn't want to see that go.

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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 268 of 300 (233345)
08-15-2005 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 266 by Tony650
08-15-2005 7:55 AM


regarding the bottom of this thread
I was not thinking of no longer posting on eVc but I was only wondering if this thread was to survive the "witching hour numeral". Yes, I suspect the English course will be more difficult for me than the Database Concepts one. Maybe I will still retain my vernacular type but I have never been averse to writing better than I speak. It should hopefully only appear here if it enhance my ability to communicate. I have no desire to write stuff htat being tough I simply smooth over with versions of Struck and Rite. nano-nano is better. It is odd that Robin's posts to me that were more literary were questioned in the past seeing how well people are taking to th "play" but no, I guess I missed your post there. I had read Percy's immediately above and I guess the next time I looked the thread had already "browsed on" beyond my small mental scrolling back paragon that functions nonetheless. Yes you said some things indeed!
quote:
Brad: "Hmm... Well, being as typically emanated dispositions relay such things - as mere desires and not NECESSITIES - sufficed shall such be as is that the (selected) preference based on and deriving from specific multitudes of qualities such balanced equilibrium herein exhibits ~REQUIRED~ sustenance, while NOT applied Feynman's electrodynamic model still owing to LESS MACROTHERMODYNAMICALLY SPECIFIC stylization as Gould may have yet been argued...but such *rarely* (detracted) from ^NEEDS^ in social conditions, or rather, by deduction OF LOGICALLY SEQUENCED CONSTRUCTS, and deflecting any PRACTICAL consequence of either the Wolfram or Mandelbrot "schools of thought" despite some arguing other specified qualities (though I doubt that Gladyshev nor Schneider would agree...thus would {more likely} RESULT, both as ^is^ and as ^would be^, of such structures which proceed both on and after non-sequential {and in cases of legitimacy [though *RARITY*] sequential} structures). Still, as would by all necessitated observation be that which APPEARS to current interlocutors, at least those (though clearly a redundant superfluity) IN PRESENT COMPANY - while parenthetically maintaining both possibility and probability of all abstract systems divisible within that relating to YET NOT DEPENDENT ON floating-point operations and recognizing conceivability of the internally external vs. the externally internal (Humphreys' model notwithstanding of course) - the "NEEDING" of certain reversal ~*either partial or absolute*~ within such self-referential assemblages ~REAL OR ARTIFICIAL~ may facilitate SANCTIONING...to what *ultimate* end isn't known of course or even any ACTUAL BEING as perhaps Kant INITIALLY suspected...but through expression of nothing IMMEDIATE in disagreeability could conceivably subsist in *~temporary~* juxtaposition which MAY lead away depending on corollary happenings but be parsimoniously redirected amid respective catalyzing methodologies intervening to realize synchronicity between Cantor and Penrose, whereby interactive phenomena reign unremittingly presenting perhaps an *"END"*...at least BY SOME *^RELATIVELY^* CURRENT, *INTER-RELATEDLY ("~^SOCIAL^~")* DEFINITIONS of the word."
I had been wathcing Feynmann's daughter introduce the new book of correspondence of her Dad and it is clear that she does not in any way appreciate what he contributed to science. One day I really want to get to the top of Penrose's modeling of Twistors after Feynman diagrams... so I was curious to see how CaveD was to dive into the Penrose question about "time". There is plenty of incommensurabilites THERE!! And Yes, I plan to get back to SteveN showing that Gould DID provide more than simple geneic selectionism which has been the best, sans religion, that Richard Dawkins has popularized mimetically at worst.
Many posters here might not recognize Rhain but, of course, I do. and for the rest WOW enough. I can pull a lot out of that. Who is Schneider though? & you are perfectly correct that in the past week I have definitely figured that there IS an an absolute "external" to what I have been adding onto EvC etc even if there might not be an absolute determinism in all of biology soma. God speed my friend, speed but do not run.

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Brad McFall
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Message 269 of 300 (233356)
08-15-2005 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 263 by berberry
08-14-2005 10:28 PM


Re: Who's Afraid of Brad McFall?
Is Richard Dawkins ever going to be fair with me if he and I ever met? Stephen Gould was. It might be my falling that I will have to find myself on the stair step dissing any Dawkinsish fishyness in the Lewontin sense for BOTH Gould's respect of Richard lAwentin AnD his own ideas on hierarchy that I would have to have found only subjectively to be suspect despite the rigours of deconstructable logos.
Here would be a top thing I can say.
George Williams wrote
quote:
Whenever such arguments work as well at one level as at another, the acceptance of one level and the rejection of the other might seem a matter of taste and of little consequence. It is in precisely such a situation, however, that Occam's razor must be used. The principle of adaptation must be recognized at no higher a level of organization than is absolutely necessary.
It is not a little sequence to see if indeed an adpative oversight is not better Darwinized by Gladyshev's reference to "substance stability" than thinking Occam's razor and parsimony are somehow related. I cross languages in that comment though. It is better if I try to keep my English restricted unless apprehended by others. Minimzation under Gladyshev's law by dint of the full underlying differential can not recognize a higher level of organization than is continuualy desired or is necessary and sufficent. The phyiscs is still bullying my bare bear T-shirt. This is NOT suprefluid but would if true have sources and sinks.
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Message 270 of 300 (234532)
08-18-2005 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 268 by Brad McFall
08-15-2005 8:15 AM


Re: regarding the bottom of this thread
Hi Brad.
Brad writes:
I was not thinking of no longer posting on eVc but I was only wondering if this thread was to survive the "witching hour numeral".
Ah, I see. Well, no problem. When this thread reaches the magic number you're free to start a continuation. I, for one, look forward to it.
Brad writes:
Maybe I will still retain my vernacular type but I have never been averse to writing better than I speak.
Actually, I seem to recall you posting links to audio of yourself, and I was, quite honestly, astonished by what a clear speaker you are.
Brad writes:
...but no, I guess I missed your post there.
No problem. Glad I pointed you towards it then.
Brad writes:
Yes you said some things indeed!
Heh, I did, didn't I? Well, that thread just provided me with the opportunity. I've wanted to parody you for a long time. Not to be mean or anything, I just thought it'd be fun (and it was ).
Brad writes:
I had been wathcing Feynmann's daughter introduce the new book of correspondence of her Dad and it is clear that she does not in any way appreciate what he contributed to science.
Really? That's a shame. From what I've seen he was brilliant.
And speaking of clear speakers (as I did above), I really enjoy listening to him; he was a very polished speaker indeed! Some time back, sidelined gave me a link to an audio clip of Feynman in this post (and if you're reading this, sidelined, thank you very much indeed ). Well, I'd never actually heard him speak before and found him to be both educational and entertaining to listen to. So I went to the bother of tracking down more Feynman media and found this page containing four videos of him lecturing at the University of Auckland, of all places! So near, yet so far.
Anyway, I very much enjoyed the lectures. Not only interesting, but fun. Feynman appears to have had a rather quick wit about him.
It's been quite some time since I watched them but one thing I can roughly recall is the answer he gave to the question "When we look at an object, do we really see the object or just the light?" I don't have an exact quote on hand but, from memory, his answer was something like this: "Well, this is one of those annoying philosophical questions that most people have no problem with. Even most philosophers, sitting, eating their dinner, have had no problem accepting that, even though they may only be seeing the light from their steak, it is still sufficient evidence of the steak's existence, through which they are able to manipulate it to their mouth. The philosophers that haven't been able to accept that have fallen by the wayside through starvation."
Well, I probably killed the humour a bit but it sounded funny when he said it.
Brad writes:
And Yes, I plan to get back to SteveN showing that Gould DID provide more than simple geneic selectionism...
Heh, it seems that you did what I predicted you would; made sense of something I never intended to make sense. I wish I could take credit but, I assure you, any point you thought I was making about Gould was purely accidental on my part.
Brad writes:
Many posters here might not recognize Rhain but, of course, I do.
Yes, some people may not have got the reference as he hasn't been around for some time (that I've seen). But I've been a lurker on EvC for years so I'm quite familiar with Rrhain's infamous *blink*. Anyway, I was trying to work out how to end the parody and that was all I could come up with.
Brad writes:
and for the rest WOW enough. I can pull a lot out of that.
You mean you can make sense of what I said? I really wasn't trying to make sense; I was just trying to string words together in a way resembling your unique style (to an admittedly exaggerated degree). Heh, I suppose if the end result made some sense to you then I must have done something right.
Brad writes:
Who is Schneider though?
Argh! I should have known I wouldn't be able to slip that by you. I've seen you mention all of the others before, but that was the one name I didn't take from your posts.
I saw you mention Gladyshev and had no idea who that was so I did a search and came across this page, on which I found the following...
Last year, in Philadelphia, within the framework of the 1998 Annual Meeting and Science Innovation Exposition, dedicated to 150 years of progress in world science, I (together with Dr. Thomas D. Schneider from National Cancer Institute) was able to organize a special session.
[Emphasis mine]
So that was my entire justification for adding "Schneider" in the statement "...though I doubt that Gladyshev nor Schneider would agree..." Again, I wasn't really trying to make sense; I was just looking for excuses to draw the parody out, and one more name is one more name.
Brad writes:
& you are perfectly correct that in the past week I have definitely figured that there IS an an absolute "external" to what I have been adding onto EvC etc even if there might not be an absolute determinism in all of biology soma.
Well, I may have been "perfectly correct" but it was, yet again, entirely accidental on my part.
Brad writes:
God speed my friend, speed but do not run.
Heh, same to you, pal. Good to catch up with you again.

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