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Tanndarr
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Message 67 of 110 (509447)
05-21-2009 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Peg
05-21-2009 8:31 AM


There is also an ancient egyption poem about a Pharaoh Ni-maat-Re that says in part "Fight on behalf of his name . . . There is no tomb for a rebel against his majesty, and his corpse is cast into the water." As all ditties do, this one would have been based on an actual event.
Seeing there is some evidence for the historical exodus...it makes it very possibly based on fact and not a myth.
Peg, you have stripped all context and sense from this passage to twist it to your purposes.
The text is instructions from one of Amenemhat III's treasurers to his children and is not recounting history but telling them to serve their king well. Here's a larger part in context:
"The beginning of the instruction which he made for his children. I tell something important and cause that ye hear (it); I cause that ye know a counsel of eternity and manner of living aright and for passing a lifetime of peace: Worship King (Amenemhat III), living forever, within your bodies and associate with his majesty in your hearts. He is perception which is in (men's) hearts, and his eyes search out every body. He is the sun god Re, by whose beams one sees; he is one who illumines the Two Lands more than the sun disc...He gives food to those who are in his service and he supplies them who tread his path. The King is a ka, and his mouth is increase. He is to be is his creation, for he is (the god) Khnum of all bodies, the begetter who creates the people...He is (the goddess) Sekhmet against him who transgresses his command, and he whom he hates will bear woes. Fight on behalf of his name, and be scrupulous in the oath to him, that ye may be free from the taint of disloyalty. He whom the king has loved will be a revered one, (but) there is no tomb for a rebel against his majesty and his corpse is cast into the water. If ye do this your persons shall be unblemished-ye will find it (so) forever."
Quoted from The Culture of Ancient Egypt by John Albert Wilson attributed to someone named Erman.
The Culture of Ancient Egypt page 143
Would you care to tell us where you got it from and who twisted it to say something that it clearly does not, or will you go down with the ship insisting that someone living in the 19th century BCE is writing about the latest news event of the exodus?
(Nimaatre is Amenemhat III's prenomen or throne name btw, since prenomens are not unique, historians prefer to use the nomen or personal name (Amenemhat with the ordinal III) to avoid confusion.)

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