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Nighttrain
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Message 144 of 301 (258342)
11-09-2005 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by CanadianSteve
11-09-2005 8:55 PM


Re: A prominent psychiatrist explains why Muslims assimilate less
Not long after the Arab conquest, the land fell to general disuse, because it is desert. There were few permanent Arab towns, with most people beng nomads there temporarily or passing through to and from egypt. That is why no Arab state was ever created there. That is why jerusalem was just about never visited by important Arabs through all those years, not in the way that, say, mecca has been.
Boy were those Crusaders (1096-1270) confused kiddies. They must have been invading the wrong country. All those towns, cities, forts, opponents belonging to another Holy Land. Even Saladin (Salah ed-Din Yusuf) must have been caught up in the delusion.

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Nighttrain
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Message 145 of 301 (258344)
11-09-2005 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by randman
11-09-2005 9:09 PM


Re: How about MLK,jr?
It is the liberals insisting that it's OK even to take a half-born child and murder it, and then trying to demonize anyone that disagrees with them as trying to impose their religious beliefs on people.
just sicko if you ask me,...but that's the Left for ya!
So it`s o.k. for God-created diseases to kill or deform kiddies in the womb, put them through agony till they succumb while growing up?
Just sicko if you ask me....but that`s the Right for ya!

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Nighttrain
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Message 149 of 301 (258371)
11-10-2005 3:46 AM
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11-09-2005 11:41 PM


Re: A prominent psychiatrist explains why Muslims assimilate less
It was in response to this imperialism that The Crusades were about.
Don`t think so, bud. It was a plot hatched by Pope Urban to achieve supremacy of the Western Church over Byzantium when the Eastern emperor asked for help driving back the Seljuk Turks.
Part of his stirring speech at Clermont: 'They have circumcised the Christians, either spreading the blood from the circumcision on the altars or pouring it in the baptismal fonts. And they cut open the navels of those whom they choose to torment with a loathsome death, tear out their most vital organs and tie them to a stake, drag them around and flog them, before killing them as they lie prone on the ground with all their entrails out. They tie some to posts and shoot at them with arrows, they order others to bare their necks and they attack them with drawn swords, trying to see whether they can cut off their heads with a single stroke'. (Crusades--Terry Jones and Alan Ereira).
Of course, this is one of the more lurid versions as we don`t have the original. Don`t think this got the good old boys stirred up as this was SOP in Europe. But when loot was mentioned, Urban nearly got trampled in the rush. When the noble Crusaders found poor pickin`s in the East, they did what all good Christians do and turned on their kin in Byzantium.

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Nighttrain
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Message 207 of 301 (258686)
11-10-2005 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 192 by CanadianSteve
11-10-2005 4:33 PM


Anti-Semitism
"Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic, and ever will be so.
Might have escaped MLK and your attention, but Arabs are SEMITES. So when anyone attacks Palestinians/Arabs, they are not anti-semitic?

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Nighttrain
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Message 214 of 301 (258698)
11-10-2005 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by CanadianSteve
11-10-2005 9:06 PM


Re: Anti-Semitism
Au contraire, the term 'anti-semitic' has been hijacked by a vocal minority and fellow-travellers. My Oxford (admittedly a trifle dated) says: 'Semite--member of any of the races supposed to be descended from Shem, including especially the Hebrews, Arameans, Phoenicians(are they still around?), Arabs and Assyrians.
From dictionary.com
Sem·ite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smt)
n.
A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
A Jew.
Bible. A descendant of Shem.
and
semite
adj : of or relating to or characteristic of Semites; "Semite peoples" [syn: Semite, Semitic] n : a member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Middle East and northern Africa [syn: Semite]
So if we go along with your view of the meaning of 'antisemitism', what do you call someone (an Israeli?) rubbishing a Palestinian---a patriot?

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Nighttrain
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Message 287 of 301 (259009)
11-11-2005 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by CanadianSteve
11-11-2005 7:43 PM


Re: Anti-Semitism
let`s see what Jews for Justice in the Middle East say. A lot of Jewish and Israeli comments there that shoot your version down in flames.
http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html

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