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Author Topic:   Young earth explanations for Angular Unconformities
Jazzns
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Message 6 of 202 (349969)
09-18-2006 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by iceage
09-17-2006 11:53 PM


Cross Cutting in General is a problem for YEC
You can expand angular unconformities to ANY kind of cross cutting relationship and get a problem for both a flood model and a young earth.
My favorite happens to be rock strain especially with fossils. If I was at home I could look up some pictures. I remember seeing some where a fossil as BENT with the curve of the rock that was horizontally compressed. It couldn't do that unless it was PART OF the rock. If it was still some squishy flood sediment then the fossil would not have taken the shape of the compression.
Erosional disconformities in general are also particular difficult for a YECer. So far I have only seen Faith respond about them and it has only been to outright deny their existence.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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Jazzns
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Message 8 of 202 (349979)
09-18-2006 1:53 PM
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09-18-2006 1:44 PM


Re: squishy rock with fossils
I had some good pictures bookmarked a long time ago. I'll have to relocate some of them.
A casual search for +fossil +strain should turn up some examples although my memory seems to indicate that I had to try a number of pages before I got past all the into to geo lecture notes that didn't have any pictures. =)

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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Jazzns
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Message 11 of 202 (350076)
09-18-2006 6:14 PM
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09-18-2006 2:15 PM


Re: strained fossils
Those brachiopods are actually pretty darn good examples. You are right thought that someone may need to see an example of a non-strained brachiopod fossil before they could see it clearly.
I am mad that I can't find the picture I am thinking of. I took geo in 03 and had the bookmark to the pick on my university account. I remember that it was really cool because it was a vertibrae fossil IIRC.

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Jazzns
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Message 16 of 202 (350670)
09-20-2006 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by iceage
09-19-2006 10:53 PM


Bump for Geologists
Reading all this I have a question for some real geologists out there. Maybe we could get the attention of rox or IRH or someone.
Are there any examples out there of strata where an unconformity exists such that it is a disconformity at one location and a nonconformity at another?
Where this might happen is where erosion had exposed an intrusion alongside the intruded upon layers. Subsequent deposition would have had to bury this unconformity. This would mean that the layers would have to be laid down, be intruded upon, the intrusion cool off, the intrusion erode, and THEN the unconformity be preserved by further burial.
This scenario would be TOTALLY devastating of a young earth, doubly so if the unconformity was angular.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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Jazzns
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Message 18 of 202 (351519)
09-23-2006 12:48 AM
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09-22-2006 10:24 PM


Re: Bump for Geologists - Any Response From a YEC?
So pretty much there you go. One more totally impossible thing to happen during a global flood. VERY impossible for a flood to make.
Thanks so much for the info. Somehow I think this is not going to get many replies from the YEC community here. In the face of facts that singularly and utterly refute their mythology, the response is usually crickets.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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