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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4145 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
ringo writes: Robert Byers writes:
Are you one of those creationists who believes that there were dinosaurs on the ark? If so, they must have gone extinct after the flood - i.e. you'd expect to find dinosaur fossils above the K-T/flood line. The fauna below the k-t line or as this creationist sees it the flood line is exactly what one should expect to find. I'll play devils advocate for a minute and field that one....The great flood unearthed the bones of dinosaurs as it was digging out areas like the mediterranean sea...depositing them on top of the KT layer......JUST don't ask me how some of them remained intact instead of just a random mix of bones spread around haphazardly. Even if you did I would tell you it is empirical proof there is a god, cause he must of reassembled them in his infinite wisdom, as proof he is real and placed them back the way they were....under the KT layer ......or some gibberish like that. Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4189 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
this creationist sees the k-t line as the flood line. If that was so, then there should be human remains below the K-T line, by your own book, humans existed before the flood and many had died before it. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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frako Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
The fauna below the k-t line or as this creationist sees it the flood line is exactly what one should expect to find. ORLY you find human fossils, bunny rabbit fossils, cow fossils, dog fossils, .... All of that below the k-t line NO YOU DONT saying otherwise is a LIE, and that is what you expect to find if there where a global flood 6000 years ago. What we find is neatly ordered species to their timescale that fits rather neatly with evolution.
Look at this picture see the small dot for humans thats how long we have been around, we do not even come close to the K-t boundary, claiming that we where there before the boundary is at best a stab in the dark because of uneducated people, at worst an outright LIE.
before the flood there was no rabbits but simply the rabbit was of a kind that isn't recognized or found in the record. And so on. Lol are you saying the grate ancestor of a rabbit then EVOLVED in to rabbits?
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Peter Member (Idle past 1479 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
I think 'change over time' pretty much means pre-post doesn't it?
My comment on the disregard of evidence was actually targetted to point out that that is EXACTLY what many creationists do in order to make their claims ... so disregarding any evidence is not something that should be done lightly.
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Robert Byers Member (Idle past 4368 days) Posts: 640 From: Toronto,canada Joined: |
No. The only way to have fossilization is from great mechanisms.
So by the time of the great post flood fossilization event the dinos had vanished. unless some simply adapted a bit and were the later creatures but not recognized. this is another option. I see the dinos and others as part of the unclean group and since the ark was a ratio of surviving clean/unclean 12:2 then it fits nicely to see the complete post flood overthrow of the old unclean dominance before the flood. There are no actual dino creature group. there are just kinds. simply like mammals or reptiles kinds tend to have like features for like needs. So there were the kinds that today they call dinos on the ark.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
No. The only way to have fossilization is from great mechanisms. Evidence? I sha'n't comment on the rest of your post, because I can't make head nor tail of it. Where did you learn English?
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frako Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
No. The only way to have fossilization is from great mechanisms. So by the time of the great post flood fossilization event the dinos had vanished. unless some simply adapted a bit and were the later creatures but not recognized. this is another option. I see the dinos and others as part of the unclean group and since the ark was a ratio of surviving clean/unclean 12:2 then it fits nicely to see the complete post flood overthrow of the old unclean dominance before the flood. There are no actual dino creature group. there are just kinds. simply like mammals or reptiles kinds tend to have like features for like needs. So there were the kinds that today they call dinos on the ark. You still haveto provide evidence of humans living at the time of dinosaurs, cause the way science seas it we arived 60 million years later, no evidence at all that any tipe of human lived during the time of dinsaurs not one bone, tool, ..... was found in the period of the dinosaurs that could be tied to humans. neither is any modern species Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Robert Byers writes:
Yet we do see fossils above the K-T boundary, so the Flood isn't the only source of fossilization.
The only way to have fossilization is from great mechanisms. Robert Byers writes:
According to the usual YEC timeline, there has been more time after the flood than before it. So, if any dinosaurs survived the Flood (on the Ark), we'd expect to find dinosaur fossils above the KT-boundary. Where are they?
So by the time of the great post flood fossilization event the dinos had vanished. Robert Byers writes:
We still have a HUGE dominance of unclean today. I see the dinos and others as part of the unclean group and since the ark was a ratio of surviving clean/unclean 12:2 then it fits nicely to see the complete post flood overthrow of the old unclean dominance before the flood.
If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate
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Peter Member (Idle past 1479 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
I thought god only had it in for 'man' when he decided to flood the joint.
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I thought god only had it in for 'man' when he decided to flood the joint.
Nope.
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Peter Member (Idle past 1479 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
Catholic Scientist writes: I thought god only had it in for 'man' when he decided to flood the joint.
Nope.
quote: Oh right ... re-read Gen 6 ... so he decided to wipe the lot out, then took a liking to Noah, and let him and his family and two of everything live ... right. Very whimsical!
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1343 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Peter writes: Oh right ... re-read Gen 6 ... so he decided to wipe the lot out, then took a liking to Noah, and let him and his family and two of everything live ... right. Very whimsical! indeed. those animals, really, only existed to serve mankind (see genesis 2). so they'd be kind of pointless once man is dead. the dinosaurs must have missed the boat.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Peter writes:
Oh right ... re-read Gen 6 ... so he decided to wipe the lot out, then took a liking to Noah, and let him and his family and two of everything live ... right. Very whimsical! It all depends on which one of the Biblical Flood myths you want to credit. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Peter Member (Idle past 1479 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
I was looking at a King James Bible ... if that makes much difference.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
No. Because all of the christian bibles contain multiple Biblical flood myths. Read the whole Noah thing carefully. Do you see any contradictions? Do you see multiple stories?
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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