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Author Topic:   Is the media hurting the war?
jar
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Message 3 of 145 (408023)
06-29-2007 11:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by taylor_31
06-29-2007 9:44 PM


Considering the content of the "Family Jewels"
Considering the content of the "Family Jewels" which was just released, I would say that there is definitely a greater need to watch what our Government is doing than ever before. There is absolute proof that the Government, FBI and CIA as well as other agencies committed crimes including dealmaking with gangsters, assassination attempts, spying on US citizens and illegal wiretaps. There is also evidence those practices continue today. Further, it is the same folk leading much of the operations, leftovers from the Nixon Administration like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. The Attorney General of the US, Alberto Gonzales may well face criminal charges.
If one thing is clear, it is that Americans should NEVER trust their government.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 7 of 145 (408117)
06-30-2007 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by taylor_31
06-30-2007 6:30 PM


The War in Iraq was not the War on Terrorism
What he meant by "blurting out" was the media reporting and scrutinizing everything that the military does - everything from civilian casualties to common screw-ups. He cited the recent murder trials of several soldiers. "Soldiers being charged for murder in a war?" he exclaimed. In addition, he also called our torture policies "soft" and "flabby" and dangerous to the country.
All the more reason such things, and his objection to them, be public knowledge. It is not the Islamic Terrorists that are a threat to the US, but people who hold beliefs like his.
The only connection between the War on Terrorism and the Invasion and occupation of Iraq, is that the Invasion of Iraq provides a continuing justification for terrorist acts.
Soldiers who kill and rape non-combatants should certainly be charged and tried. Frankly, I place a lot of the blame though on the Administration that placed them in the position.

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jar
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Message 35 of 145 (408265)
07-01-2007 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by taylor_31
07-01-2007 11:04 AM


He also sounds like he is very, very young
and very ignorant of history, even recent history.
The problem is that the Government lies to the people and cannot be trusted to obey the laws.
We absolutely need the media to help expose the government when it becomes criminal in nature and practice.

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Message 41 of 145 (408398)
07-02-2007 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Hyroglyphx
07-02-2007 8:51 AM


Re: Military intelligence: Often an oxymron
You can't say fire if there is no fire, you can't say bomb on an airplane, you can't threaten to harm another person, and you can't present intended distortions because any prudent person has a reasonable expectation to be hearing truthful matters from the media.
Or the government.
So the severe penalties for lying to Congress and the American people that lead up to the invasion of Iraq should carry exactly what severe penalties?

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Message 98 of 145 (420943)
09-10-2007 11:42 AM
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09-10-2007 11:27 AM


Re: Considering the content of the "Family Jewels"
I'm confused. Exactly what part of dealmaking with gangsters, assassination attempts, spying on US citizens and illegal wiretaps do you consider "Loopholes"?

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