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Chiroptera
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Message 84 of 145 (420522)
09-08-2007 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Tal
09-08-2007 3:01 AM


Huh. Were those soldiers in New York when that Iraqi ICBM hit near them? Because as I recall, that is what we were supposed to be so afraid.
Added by edit:
Can someone fix those images so the page will fit in my browser window?
Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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Chiroptera
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Message 87 of 145 (420561)
09-08-2007 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by crashfrog
09-08-2007 12:23 PM


I would also imagine that if those substances were actually assembled into a workable missile (you know, the so-called "imminent threat") they would have been easier to identify and be handled properly, and those burns would not have occurred.

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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Chiroptera
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Message 90 of 145 (420728)
09-09-2007 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Tal
09-09-2007 10:04 AM


Hi, Tal.
Yeah, that new sig is pretty funny in that it shows your utter lack of reading comprehension skills.
However, just in case you post to a different thread and people won't realize that I actually did not say that, I'm going to have to insist that you remove it.

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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Chiroptera
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Message 92 of 145 (420730)
09-09-2007 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by CK
09-09-2007 10:12 AM


Deleted - didn't advance the "debate" (such as there is).
Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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Chiroptera
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Message 99 of 145 (420952)
09-10-2007 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by riVeRraT
09-10-2007 11:30 AM


1 That our enemies read the papers, and watch CNN.
So? What do you think the problem is? Do you think that CNN is broadcasting reports like "US forces believe that Osama bin Laden is located at 123 4th St. in Baghdad and will raid that house at 8:00 tonight?"
The problem about "media hurting the war" is that the media sometimes (not often, but sometimes) publishes information that contradict the government's lies about why the war is taking place, and perhaps even reminding viewers and readers that innocent people as well as American service personel are being killed by in a foreign invasion that occurred for no justified reason.
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2 That we as a people need to know what is going on, since we don't trust our own government....
And this is how the media is "hurting the war". It hurts the war when it presents information that contradicts the government's propaganda efforts. The people, by being informed and then exercising their rights as voters, may decide to end the war. An informed electorate not only hurts war efforts, it hurts all government policies that are meant to exploit the people for the benefit of the few.

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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Chiroptera
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Message 108 of 145 (421475)
09-12-2007 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by petrophysics1
09-12-2007 6:14 PM


What's your point?
Time was part of the media that was helping to beat Bush's war drum; they were publishing Bush's allegations that Saddam Hussein had WMD and posed an imminent threat and had links to Al Qaeda. So we already know that Time publishes made up stories. Are you telling us anything new?
Edited by Chiroptera, : typo

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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Chiroptera
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Message 129 of 145 (422023)
09-15-2007 2:35 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by riVeRraT
09-13-2007 9:32 AM


No, but being that it is possible that the people we are fighting against are very isolated, any information that we think is outdated, might be useful to them.
Why argue about "possibilities"? Is there any information about who the insurgents are? Can we determine, with a little research, whether the insurgents are at least somewhat organized and share information amongst themselves? If you were to try using Google, would you find out whether it is known that the insurgents, by actually observing the movements and actions of coalition forces (as well as information that they can gleen from their supporters in the Iraqi police force), that they have information at least as good as what is being reported on CNN?
Come back to this point when you know a little more than "possibilities".
It might be also be helpful to the discussion if you would provide an example or two of reports in the media that are supposed to be "helpful" to the enemy. It appears that several people are discussing several different ideas of what it means to "help" the enemy.
--
P.S. I found this piece from the Onion to be only slightly humorous, but it does seem somewhat apropos.
Edited by Chiroptera, : added only to last sentence.

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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