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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 4 of 18 (297117)
03-21-2006 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
03-21-2006 9:04 AM


i think a tree has the same free will. what's to say you are more alive than a tree? all living things are fighting against chaos and will eventually fail. by passing our line on, we win the battle.
is there a god? does it matter? it doesn't make me any more or less alive to say there is or is not a god.

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Message 11 of 18 (297171)
03-21-2006 11:12 PM
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03-21-2006 11:01 PM


In what sense?
Can it make decisions? Can it think for itself?
Does it wonder why he doesn't have legs?
i don't know. i might see a tree tomorrow. i will ask it.
all plants grow against gravity and grow in different directions to avoid wind damage. i think that's mighty demonstrative of their permitted free will. i'm sure if trees had legs, they'd walk to better climates.
If I said that, I would be a ego maniac.
no. if you said that, you'd be referencing your belief that people should have children and beat down chaos because that is their purpose. i am suggesting that if one wants to fight chaos, one might decide to have children. or decide to study theoretical math. either will work come to think of it.

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I don't understand, what does that have to do with my question?
you suggested that your feeling of self, your cogito ergo sum leads you to believe in god. i am asking why cogito ergo deus? deus ex machina?
i believe my feeling of self comes from my feeling of self. and if that sounds difficult for you, you should take a camping trip in my head sometime. then it will seem like the simplest thing ever... if only because everything else is so damned complicated and convoluted.
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Message 18 of 18 (297288)
03-22-2006 11:32 AM
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03-22-2006 8:51 AM


no.

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