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Message 240 of 901 (693037)
03-09-2013 11:18 PM
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03-09-2013 10:20 PM


Re: Duane Gish, 92 ... some balance
He was dishonest but he atleast had a great delivery.

So does any competent con man.

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Message 637 of 901 (824058)
11-22-2017 12:48 AM
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11-21-2017 11:55 PM


Re: Charles Manson
On Sirius XM Progress Radio today, a caller made the observation that the Republicans would even vote Charles Manson into office. Though Hitler would have come up a very close second.

How much does it cost to support a prisoner? What a waste of money that was.


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Message 638 of 901 (824059)
11-22-2017 12:50 AM
Reply to: Message 635 by Tanypteryx
11-21-2017 9:59 PM


Re: David Cassidy
OK, Della Reese, David Cassidy, and Charles Manson. Does that meet our quota? Or does Manson not count?

Frankly, I'm pushing for Donald Trump to round out this troika.

Except for his funeral. As I understand, each president can make arrangements for his own funeral ahead of time. And, as I understand, Trump has already made his own arrangements which include the massive display of military hardware in a massive parade patterned after the massive Red Square parades in his boyfriend's country.

Edited by dwise1, : Added a happy thought


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Message 650 of 901 (828623)
02-21-2018 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 649 by Phat
02-21-2018 2:52 PM


Re: Billy Graham
Ironically, it was Billy Graham who over half a century ago changed my life for the best.

As a child, I attended our neighbors' Protestant church. One Sunday, a group from church took me to a Billy Graham revival. That motivated me to be baptized, and then to get serious and learn just exactly what I was supposed to believe. So I started reading the Bible, through which I discovered that I just could not possibly believe that stuff. Since I couldn't believe what I was supposed to, I left. Even though I was still a bit below the traditional age of confirmation, I present myself as a "confirmed atheist."

Everything I've encountered since then has confirmed my decision: learning the history of Christianity, learning fundamentalist theology as a fellow traveler of the Jesus Freak Movement, studying "creation science", decades of repeated encounters with creationists and with "true Christians."

If not for Billy Graham, I would very likely have not found my path.


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Message 700 of 901 (849241)
03-01-2019 3:33 PM
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02-28-2019 4:07 PM


Re: Andre' Previn, 89
Somewhen around 2013 he participated in a prank with a long-standing German program (kind of akin to "Candid Camera"), "Verstehen Sie Spaß?"(Do You Understand Funny?) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzjL-txuGcw .. Verzeihung, aber alles auf Deutsch.

He came on a standard show for a standard interview, but when he opened his violin case, it was not there. The entire scene devolved into "Wo ist meine Geige?"(where is my (extremely expensive) violin?). At one point, they even bring in a security man still wrapped up in duct tape. He had been hit on the head, but André still wanted to know, "But where is my violin?"("Aber wo ist meine Geige?"). Finally, a violin case arrives, but the "extremely expansive violin" is utterly destroyed. But the show's host recognizes the agent delivering the violin case as being from the "Verstehen Sie Spaß?" show and the entire deception falls apart at that point.


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Message 727 of 901 (852622)
05-14-2019 6:04 PM
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05-14-2019 4:01 PM


Re: Tim Conway dead at age 85
Yes. Numb skull!

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Message 766 of 901 (861656)
08-24-2019 11:12 PM
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08-24-2019 10:19 PM


Re: David Koch
Of course, he's gone, so he will not have to face the consequences of his lifelong behavior. The real villains rarely do.

I think that's his final "out".

He's not going to have to face the consequences of his actions. "Screw the future; I got mine!"


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Message 809 of 901 (867833)
12-03-2019 7:19 PM
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12-03-2019 4:44 PM


Re: D.C. Fontana, ST: TOS writer at 80
Interesting but what is the original series?

Star Trek (1966-1969). The one with CAPT Kirk.


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Message 811 of 901 (867835)
12-03-2019 7:49 PM
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12-03-2019 7:30 PM


Re: D.C. Fontana, ST: TOS writer at 80
late '60's, cancelled and replaced by "Lost In Space"!

Funny story, that.

Lost in Space premiered a year before Star Trek (1965 for LiS, 1966 for ST), also lasted three seasons and went off the air a year before Star Trek (1968 for LiS, 1969 for ST). After a year of silliness and the "Monster of the Week", the critics had low expectations for Star Trek, assuming that it would just be another Lost in Space.

To fight that prejudgement, the producers invited critics to tour the set and see for themselves that this was going to be a serious and adult science fiction show. This was before the show hit the air and they were filming the first episode to air, "The Man Trap", on the day of the tour. There they saw a pointy-eared alien bleeding green blood basically saying, "The monster attacked me, Captain." Everybody on the tour went away thinking, "Not another Lost in Space. No Monster of the Week. Yeah, right! In a pig's eye!"


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Message 848 of 901 (874073)
03-24-2020 1:38 PM
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03-24-2020 11:56 AM


Re: Albert Uderzo, 92
But you have to read it in french to get the puns.

I think they translated a lot of those, though I'm not familiar with the English version.

I discovered Asterix in Germany in 1973, so I had the German version. They even had some incidental characters speak in Dialekt.

The main problem I had were the popular culture references. Some characters were drawn meticulously (as opposed to cartoonish) so I had to assume they were French celebrities. An MC at a gladiator game was one such. I assumed he was drawn after a TV variety show host, kind of like an American cartoon using a character resembling Ed Sullivan.

I did also pick up a French copy at the airport on my way home.

Obelix' catch phrase (pardon my French):
French: "Ils sont fous, ces romaines."
English: "They're crazy, those Romans."
German: "Die spinnen die Römer."
Italian: "Sono Pazzi Questi Romani." (SPQR)

So then Italian added its own pun, though the Wikipedia page on SPQR ("Senātus Populusque Rōmānus", "The Roman Senate and People" -- that "que" postfix to "Poplulus" means "and" and hence the third letter of the acronym) says:

quote:
The Italians have long used a different and humorous expansion of this acronym, "Sono Pazzi Questi Romani" (literally: "They're crazy, these Romans"). In the Asterix and Obelix comics, Obelix often uses the French translation of this phrase, "Ils sont fous ces Romains", and in the Italian editions, the original phrase is used.

Edited by dwise1, : Dialekt, not dialect.

Edited by dwise1, : Latin grammar man-splaining about "-que"


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Message 884 of 901 (880990)
08-16-2020 2:14 AM
Reply to: Message 883 by JonF
08-15-2020 8:53 AM


Re: Glenn Morton
I first heard of Glenn R. Morton from Robert Schadewald's report on his presentation at the 1986 International Conference on Creationism (ICC). Here is what I wrote about him on my site (Creation/Evolution Links):
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It was Glenn R. Morton's story that first made me aware of the deliterious effects of "creation science" on its followers' faith and how it can literally destroy their faith. Glenn R. Morton used to be a young-earth creationist and had originally learned geology through creationist sources. Then when he started working as a petroleum geologist he had to deal daily with rock-hard geological facts that directly contradicted what creation science had taught him and that he had been taught could not exist if Scripture were to have any meaning. This drove him to the brink of becoming an atheist and he would have gone over that brink if he hadn't arrived at an approach to attempt a scientifically accurate harmonization.

Morton had created a fairly extensive web site which contained many articles about geological evidence and how it relates to what "creation science" claims (ie, the evidence disproves those claims) as well as testimonials from people whose faith was either lost or nearly lost because of creation science and some reports from "intelligent design" conferences. That site was an excellent resource, but then he took it down when he became upset that some atheists were using it to attack Christianity.

Fortunately, a number of his pages were archived by other sites and reposted, though finding a specific one can be something of a scavanger hunt. For example:


  • providing a short bio followed by several links to some of his articles which OEM archived on their site.

    That includes Morton's two personal testimonials detailing his deconversion from young-earth creationism:


  • Young-Earth Arguments: A Second Look. Courtesy of the WayBackMachine web archive, it's a good article from 1998 which counters a number of claims despite being short: "Are Radioactive Dates Wrong?", "Varves", "Pollen in the varves", "Carbon 14 and Varves", "Buried River Channel", "THE SHRINKING SUN", "Supernova 1987A proves the speed of light has been constant for 170,000 years", "10 years of Root Growth from 7,000 feet down".

    Second, it has a list of about 50 links to his other articles, almost all of them dealing with the Flood and the actual geological evidence. Unfortunately, not all of them work.

  • The WayBackMachine web archive's copy of Morton's site from 2010 August 11. Although it looks promising, not all the links work (eg, his reporting of the "intelligent design" Nature of Nature conference in Waco, TX). Fortunately, the index page for testimonials, Personal Stories of the Creation/Evolution Struggle does work and makes for eye-opening reading.

  • Talk Origins Archive, for which Morton had written several articles. Follow the link above and do a search on his name.

Edited by dwise1, : corrected typo


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