is the US sliding into Fascism? Evidence for and against

You have it backwards. Conservatives are trying to get the government out of our lives with their legislation to force us all to adhere to and financially support political programs we detest, and that were never a part of US policy until the PC police took over. Leave us alone, we leave you alone.This message has been edited by Faith, 05-12-2005 08:43 AM

Please substantiate these allegations. Otherwise you are engaging in slander.This message has been edited by Faith, 05-12-2005 08:42 AM

All that could be true and yet proves nothing about anybody's motivations. That's the slander/libel part, the implication that the war had this purpose.And I'm not sure I'm following you anyway, which may be because I'm no economist but please explain. Prices go up because of events in the Middle East, our major supplier of oil, but what then, our much less productive domestic oil suppliers benefit from that because the prices go up across the board? Is this what you are saying? And if so, why wouldn't domestic producers benefit more from say, a price war, in which they can sell their product cheaper than the ME suppliers? Something doesn't compute here but I'm not sure exactly what.

I detest the revisionist redefinitions of rights and freedoms for starters, terms which have been co-opted by the Left and made to apply to personal behaviors, such as homosexuality, which is not the business of government to force on people who have moral objections to it. Freedom means leaving them alone to do as they please in their private lives, but what we are starting to get is a police state tyranny which forces all to legitimize and even subsidize such behavior. More and more the idea of freedom is being twisted to apply to formerly criminalized behavior. While in many cases I can support decriminalization, I can't support official legitimization that requires Christians, for instance, and other likeminded groups, to violate Biblical precepts by treating something as right that the Bible condemns. That is unAmerican and an unconscionable misuse of government power. THIS is the police state, what YOU are supporting. The Sixties generation basically, now in power, even the terrorists among them, God help us all. Who is working to pass such laws? The trend has been in the opposite direction for generations now, from originally Christian schools to militant secularism. However, I don't support official prayer in public schools and don't know who you are talking about.

No matter how I read that, it still ends up "implying that this was the purpose of the war" or at least a BIG purpose of it. Especially when I go back and reread your original statement which still sounds even more like it implies this purpose: Putting "spread democracy" in quotes sure implies some kind of duplicity for starters.Actually it's not true that it never gets any coverage. It's a pretty common accusation of the Bush administration that the war was *really* about oil and not about any of the things it was said to be about.