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Author Topic:   Supporting life aboard the ark
crashfrog
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Message 16 of 32 (39084)
05-06-2003 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Mangetout
05-06-2003 5:49 AM


there seems to be no good reason why humans also wouldn't survive, clinging to large pieces of floating debris (until they could get to one of these floating island ecosystems).
Or, say, humans in boats? Clearly boat technology would have been available to the antidiluveans. Surely some communities would have been coastal, with a large amount of fishing. Even if it was a very, very sudden flood somebody might have been out fishing that very night.
I'd give better odds on the survival of a few men or one man in a small boat than on the seaworthyness of one huge ark anyway.

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truthlover
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Message 17 of 32 (39138)
05-06-2003 8:22 PM
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05-06-2003 5:49 AM


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Really, I think the floating mat hypothesis has no merit whatever
For some reason this really tickled my funny bone. I think it was the understatement, after you were putting the finishing touches on an idea that didn't have a chance of surviving, anyway. It still makes me chuckle.

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Rrhain
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Message 18 of 32 (39212)
05-07-2003 6:58 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Coragyps
05-04-2003 12:07 AM


Re: Actual cases of new genera and higher
Coragyps, wj,
Well, I've been over frank for quite some time. When he claimed that no grass grew on Wrangel Island and then refused to acknowledge the pictures I referred him to showing a lush landscape filled with scrub as well as the references to the re-introduction of buffalo to the island, I realized there was no point.
I'm learning that to debate with frank, you simply do some research, make a copy of the links, and then simply repeat them over and over every time he claims that nobody has ever responded to his assertions. If somebody else also responds, add that to the list of references.
Perhaps those who enter the threads can see that frank is as ludicrous as he appears to be.
The question I have is how long I can keep myself from banning E-B and herp. Ah well...not really the most on topic discussion here. Apologies to the list for going off on a tangent.
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Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

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Brad McFall
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Message 19 of 32 (39236)
05-07-2003 11:37 AM
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05-07-2003 6:58 AM


Re: Actual cases of new genera and higher
Forever, let's hope.(I am herp for those that did not know) Give me a link to Woodmarappe and I'll be happy to delve into the issue somewhat beyond what I have done on the ARK.
I had started to review Young's book which clearly attempted to argue against Young Earth Creationism and i was getting ready to "cash" in on his misuse of the entire field of biogoegraphy to discuss the geology of the Newark Supergroup to which flat land I grew up on including the history of Numbers'Creationists but never found that the plusiblity was even high enough to post even to talk0rgings style c/e boards so I left it behind. It is true that Gould's claim to scaling to geology changes the writing of such a bit but that is NEVER reason to "ban" a person. Why dont you Rhain send me a personal e-mail and explain why you would even "think" such. I certinly FOUND OUT what LUX had been saying and THAT IS VALUE enough for even an administrator as if I were one to asses. It can not be that you object to "Seeing" what I write. The claim to science is clear and has less to do within this thread (Mendel Observed Boscovichian Impenetrability in a Mass of Molecular Biology). I would use THAT KNOWLEDGE to comment on views about the ARK and its husbandry taking into HISTORICAL consideration the different uses of latidue and longitude geographically TO ANY AVAILABLE GEOLOGICAL CORRELATION. If the issue comes back to organisms (aka fossils naming horzions I can not loose), if it stays in the volcano I still have a little bit of research do to about the difference of what I call "topographic leveling" in promoting the use reverse genetic engineering by water balance massed in terms of soil displacment either from the Ocean Floor to the Mountain Tops but I have never found this much interest in the Biosphere data project and Gould simply left this for standard science of the comparing large bodies of water with the "bugs" that are coherent with them. Please reach me at bsmcfall@hotmail.com if you need.

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Mangetout
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Message 20 of 32 (39290)
05-07-2003 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Brad McFall
05-07-2003 11:37 AM


Re: Actual cases of new genera and higher
What did all of that mean, anybody?

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Rrhain
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Message 21 of 32 (39347)
05-08-2003 7:02 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Mangetout
05-07-2003 6:58 PM


Re: Actual cases of new genera and higher
Mangetout writes:
quote:
What did all of that mean, anybody?
Nothing.
There is a running bet in Creation vs. Evolution as to whether or not Brad (he goes by "herp" on the MSN group) is a real person or an AI programmed to string together meaningless crap related to biology.
In the MSN groups, he has admitted to having a psychiatric disorder for which he supposedly sought treatment at one point.
But, this is par for the course when it comes to a post by this person. You can understand why I consider banning him from the MSN group: There is literally nothing there to discuss. One cannot penetrate the cognitive disorder.

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Mangetout
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Message 22 of 32 (39354)
05-08-2003 8:06 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Rrhain
05-08-2003 7:02 AM


Ah, I wondered if it might be something like that; I've seen it a few times on other boards; the posts have just enough semblance of meaning to make people try really hard to penetrate them; requests for clarification are met with equally wordy and meaningless replies; frustration and other hijinks ensue.

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Brad McFall
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Message 23 of 32 (39396)
05-08-2003 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Rrhain
05-08-2003 7:02 AM


Re: Actual cases of new genera and higher
You guys are really in the dark matter on this one. I exist. I simply can read what others have not seen. In English we all use 26 letters.
I have NEVER admitted WHO Sumac at True Seekers ALREADY SPOKE WITH AT CU. That is where and how that rumor started. Richard Boyd was largerly responsible as far as what I do know about how HE had been able to teach a line between two points WIHOUT recognizing the view of the void of Boscovich. That cause me no problem but it has taken some time to figure out what to "do" with LOGIC. I simply wanted to study some herpetology and I was paying the bill I advise you NOT to take this advice from CU for a decade latter it as well as my persona non gratis has evaporated. Feel free to understand.
It seems to me that you all are NOT talking about geology and the Ark but about me and I had tesitified IN TAPE that I AM NOT GOD. Please get over it.

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Mangetout
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Message 24 of 32 (39426)
05-08-2003 4:48 PM


Hi Brad, thanks for your response, but calculating implementation through an encrypted construct on the structured signature together with your pipeline of programmed frequency incompletely filters a memory of static transparency, can you tell me whether you plan to begin from a conceptual framework in a static manifestation by predictive stasis, surrendering my consent of distilled selection, or by enabling location from a distilled calculation with simulated tools, abstracting your collective terms of an irreversable construct?

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Dan Carroll
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Message 25 of 32 (39431)
05-08-2003 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Mangetout
05-08-2003 4:48 PM


quote:
Hi Brad, thanks for your response, but calculating implementation through an encrypted construct on the structured signature together with your pipeline of programmed frequency incompletely filters a memory of static transparency, can you tell me whether you plan to begin from a conceptual framework in a static manifestation by predictive stasis, surrendering my consent of distilled selection, or by enabling location from a distilled calculation with simulated tools, abstracting your collective terms of an irreversable construct?

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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 26 of 32 (39441)
05-08-2003 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Mangetout
05-08-2003 4:48 PM


2nd death
I would have talked about the husbandary of cells on the basis OF NOAH and not some DEATH BEHIND any cell-death in the part of organisms that by anthoer drop leads towards some special vs general revelation but I was trying no matter the planent to remain with a THEORY and this may indeed requrie a bit of spirt and not simply the rupture of any collection not yet made. I have always looked at the ARK creatures as a means to discuss this kind of veternarinism but to be wothwhile the theology would have lead to some where not simply to a showing of how the word intussumption may have become intusception. I dont know. you didnt need that many words as you see I have it in terms of letters.

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NosyNed
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Message 27 of 32 (39452)
05-08-2003 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Mangetout
05-08-2003 4:48 PM


Imitation is the sincerest ...
Whoa, scary, you do that all too well. I've tried and I know how hard it is.

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Mangetout
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Message 28 of 32 (39463)
05-08-2003 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by NosyNed
05-08-2003 6:31 PM


Re: Imitation is the sincerest ...
That was the output of a computer program I wrote a while back; it accurately mimics the style(and content) of an incoherent message board correspondent I was dealing with at the time.

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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 29 of 32 (39520)
05-09-2003 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Mangetout
05-08-2003 8:11 PM


Re: Imitation is the sincerest ...
Again, you prove you were talking about me or some other "incoherent" poster and hence you were not even talking about GOD so please as I admit not talking enough about the geology and the flood please lets get this party started somewhere else. I think the admin is correct. And please stop putting me into you(r) other mix I am not a robot and I do know from what I get the power to speak.
[This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 05-09-2003]

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Mangetout
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Message 30 of 32 (39524)
05-09-2003 12:07 PM


Fair enough. It is time to stop siphoning recursion from the programmed stages in the distilled contract by extracting the resource of abstracted purpose of logical abuse.
Let us resume the methodical production of a systematic commodity of structured method implementation with internal resolution of the conceptual framework of cognitive communication, applying to every concept of cognitive rationale.

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