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iano
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Message 15 of 45 (337614)
08-03-2006 6:45 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Parasomnium
08-03-2006 2:18 AM


Re: Humanity is not immortal
Those are the real threats.
They are indeed. But as in driving, its only when the threat has broken a stop light and sits right in your path do you think of applying the brakes.
In the meantime its party on...and it would be a brave, if soon-extinct politician who attempted to close the beer taps

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iano
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Message 17 of 45 (337623)
08-03-2006 8:03 AM
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08-03-2006 7:24 AM


Re: Humanity is not immortal
But why do we never learn the important lesson from this phenomenon? Why can't we learn to apply the brakes when we can still stop the car well before we crash? None of the people who have said something about this subject on this thread are particular geniuses. So if they can see the impending doom, then why can't humanity as a whole do something about it? Or are we just rabbits mesmerized by the headlights of an oncoming car?
Human nature. Even the people you refer to only do so half heartedly. They recognise the problem but wait for someone else to sort out the problem - for we all have more pressing concerns this minute. And in the meantime we all party on (with possible spannering around the edges of it like taking our beer cans to the recycling dump or turning off the tap whilst we brush our teeth)
We look to politicians and the like but they are no different than us. They recognise the problem but they too have more pressing concerns. It all combines to prevent the level of action necessary to reverse things from occurring (were it indeed possible which I think it is not)
The greatest ever coming together of humanity for a common purpose was the defeat of Nazi Germany. It took imminent and potential destruction of a way of life to generate this incredible unity of action. Until the last moment however "Peace in our time" (iow: don't stop the party). Ironically, this unified action was directed at protecting that which threatens to destroy us now. Our freedom to largely do as we please with miminmal interferance.
There is no precedent for humanity coming together to dismantle its own, inherent selfishness. And our financial system, Capitalism, is the tool we use to maintain that selfishenss. All empires fail and the empire of capitalism will too - one day. This empire, like all empires must perpetually grow to survive but like winding out a steel cable over the edge of a cliff - eventually the very weight of the wound out cable itself will cause it to snap.
History tries to tell us that it will repeat itself. And the repeated lesson from history is that we do not learn from history
Edited by iano, : No reason given.

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iano
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Message 24 of 45 (337664)
08-03-2006 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Parasomnium
08-03-2006 9:04 AM


Re: People are stupid
The wisdom regarding weaponry goes as follows: you must stay generationally ahead of your enemies (real or percieved) in terms of the weapons you hold. There is no point in being comparable in power for that permits the possibility that you may lose. You must seek to stay ahead to increase your chances of success if attacked (or reducing the chances of you being attacked - by same method)
Someone gets ICBM's - everyone strives to get them
Your enemy has ICBM's - Star Wars
ICBM's become as numerous as the stars - put satellites up to keep and eye on the silos
Too many ICBM's for Star wars to ever work - develop space based weaponary that can hit missiles as soon as their silo door opens.
NASA wants more budget? they come up with a design for the shuttle replacement that has excellent military application (like cheap enough to make many and the ability to deploy space > earth weaponary). The militaries budget is infinite compared to NASAs - all you have to do is tap into the well. Everyones out for their own gain. Thats the problem
How stupid can we get?
How about rushing into China and India for the financial killing to be made and awakening these sleeping giants. 2 billion people will soon all want the same level of comfort as the one billion who already have it. Talk about adding fuel to the fire. Try to stop big business doing so would be like trying to stem the tide.
Capitalism. We eat of it until we realise too late that it is eating us.

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