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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
quote: No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.conservapedia.com/John_Scopes Ah, what a breath of fresh, unbiased, air. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Further errors in the Scopes piece:
Scopes did not "unwittingly" become a test case. As I understand it, he volunteered for the position. IIRC, a group got together in a drug store in Dayton and decided to put on a test case. They asked Scopes if he would agree to be the defendant and he did. There's actually some question about whether Scopes ever indeed taught evolution. From this site:
quote: The ACLU was involved, but in fact it did not want Darrow as the defense attorney. Dudley Malone, Darrow's eventual co-counsel on the case, first proposed Darrow to the ACLU, but his participation was bitterly opposed by the steering committee of the ACLU for the Scopes case. Among other things, committee members were worried that Darrow's status of being a "headline chaser" would divert attention from the issues involved. It was actually Scopes who endorsed Darrow, pointing out that William Jennings Bryan was no wall flower himself, and that there was already such a carnival atmosphere in Dayton that the presence of Darrow couldn't make things any worse. The Butler Act did not have a "mere $100 fine." The penalty for a violation of the Act was supposed to have been between $100.00 and $500.00, to be determined by the jury. However, Judge Raulston instead imposed the fine himself. In fact, it was this procedural error that resulted in the appellate court overturning the conviction. As crash pointed out, Scopes did not plead guilty. In fact, after the jury announced the verdict, Judge Raulston asked Scopes if he had anything to say before sentencing. Scopes said, quote: As far as Darrow reneging on his "promise" to testify after Bryan, here's how that arose in the first place:
quote: Darrow did not renege on anything. The Court adjourned the trail in the middle of Darrow's cross-examination of Bryan and, on the next day, decided that no purpose would be served by continuing the examination. Darrow was never called. As far as whether Bryan "performed well," I leave that to the reader to decide. Bryan's testimony can be found here. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Curious. They go to great lengths to make clear that they insist on using American spelling, but they apparently don't mind the British custom of treating a group of people as plural.
quote: Emphasis mine. On the other hand, perhaps the entry was written by someone with less than a passing acquaintance with subject-verb agreement. The rather poor structure of the sentence suggests the latter, I suppose. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
One assumes that the author was Andy Schlafly, listed as the instructor of the "course." As far as I've been able to determine, the "lectures" are intended to be used in connection with online courses offered by Eagle University.
If the last name sounds familiar to some, it should. He appears to be the son of Phyllis Schlafly. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
quote: Not only is this WRONG, it is IMPOSSIBLE. No judge can do a thing to prevent a decision from being appealed. There was no appeal because during the pendency of the case, the nuts that put the antiscience policy in effect were tossed out of office. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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