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Author Topic:   www.conservapedia.com - What do you think?
Straggler
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Message 8 of 167 (387932)
03-03-2007 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tusko
03-03-2007 11:13 AM


As mad as a screaming weasel on a pogo-stick
Personally, I think its as mad as a screaming weasel on a pogo-stick
Nicely put.
Does the supposed liberal bias of Wiki show that -
A) The US conservatives are totally out of step with the rest of the Western world (as contributions to Wiki come from all over the globe)
B) That those educated and knowledgable enough to contribute to such resources as Wiki are more likely to be liberal progressives than conservative fundamentalists
?????

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Straggler
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Message 24 of 167 (387956)
03-03-2007 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Tusko
03-03-2007 6:57 PM


Re: As mad as a screaming weasel on a pogo-stick
Seriously now, I think the problem you raise is a fascinating one; namely, how do you communicate with people who sincerely believe that logic, experiment, observation and evidence are fundamentally worthless, even dangerous?
Well the usual tactic is to try and point out the succeses of science and how this benefits their (and everyone elses) daily lives. Computers, flight, internal combustion engine, electricity, immunisation etc. etc. etc. etc.
Compare this to the understanding and technological benefits gained from creationist "research".......
However this tactic seems to have little success so in short - I have no idea how to confront these people!!
(Answers on a postcard.............)
How can they have come to believe this? It's a yawning, world-swallowing gulf in understanding, isn't it?
Well evidently I think so.
However this site is one of the few places we can actually interract with those that hold such views and ask them I suppose.
Not that there are that many full on creationists left even here.....
Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

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Straggler
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Message 32 of 167 (387967)
03-03-2007 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by jar
03-03-2007 7:30 PM


Re: Christian Cult of Ignorance
Why is it that Christian fundamentalism and conservative politics are so often entwined??
As you state it does not logically have to be the case and ones beliefs regards the formation of life, the universe and everything would seem to have little to say about national economic policy......
However the two do seem to be inextricably linked for reasons that I find hard to fathom?

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Straggler
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Message 35 of 167 (387980)
03-03-2007 8:17 PM
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03-03-2007 8:07 PM


Re: Christian Cult of Ignorance
I am not sure this phenomenon is restricted to the US.
Here Christian morality (if not extreme fundamentalism) is equally entwined with conservative politics.
Is this the case generally around the globe I wonder?

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Straggler
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Message 47 of 167 (388022)
03-04-2007 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Tusko
03-04-2007 7:15 AM


Re: Christian Cult of Ignorance
I broadly agree with you. I would add that the incitement to religious hatred laws and the equivelent race hate laws seem to be getting embroiled with each other in a way that is not helpful to either.
The governments over zealousness in introducing new legislation as an answer to every problem and the fact that if used wrongly such legislation can, as you say, be very counterproductive are both causes for concern IMHO.
I don't know what the forum guidelines say about revealing locations etc. (if anything) but I just wondered which part of london you are from?

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Straggler
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Message 98 of 167 (388333)
03-05-2007 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Dr Jack
03-05-2007 9:01 AM


Re: Christian Cult of Ignorance
In terms of imposing Christain morality and advocating Christian based victorian style values the conservatives win hands down.
Your average well meaning 'teachings of Christ' type Christian may well be predominantly left wing but in terms of ramming overtly moralising political philosophy down the throat of the electorate the conservatives historically have little competition.
Tony Blair is probably the most vocally Christian Prime Minister we've had.
Tony Blair is probably the most right wing leader of the labour party we have ever had as well. And even he generally draws the line at overtly defining social policy on the basis of moral ideology.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix quote box.

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Straggler
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Message 137 of 167 (388771)
03-07-2007 4:25 PM
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03-07-2007 1:16 PM


Whereabouts
I am a South Londoner by birth and current location.
Brixton Hill. The arse end of the Victoria line.

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