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Author Topic:   More Proof this Administration is stupid (Re: The FEMA press conference)
Hyroglyphx
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Message 31 of 35 (431934)
11-02-2007 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by crashfrog
10-30-2007 9:57 PM


Re: Tying it to Bush Administration?
holding a fake press conference? That's certainly a radical departure from the honesty, transparency, and aboveboard conduct that this administration has developed the reputation for, isn't it?
So you need no evidence of misconduct on the Bush Administration in order to believe they had a hand in the scandal? Noted. And this coming from Lord Empiricism himself. That's delectable.
It's a culture of corruption
Sounds like a communist mantra.
led by an executive and his administration displaying a complete disregard for truth and oversight, and rewarding slavish loyalty.
Cool. Where can I get the wiretaps?
How many examples do we have to supply? "Heckuva job, Brownie"?
Yes, so blame Brown for dropping the ball..... Twice... And blame Bush, 1: For hiring an inexperienced person to run a very serious institution, and 2: For not firing him after the Katrina debacle. But alleging misconduct without any kind of substantiated reason to do so is only wishful thinking. It doesn't make it so.
How can any thinking person, at this point, not see this latest travesty as a direct result of the example set by the President? Explain it to me.
How can any thinking person blame all the abject misery in the world on one man's shoulders? Explain that to me.

“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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jar
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Message 32 of 35 (431936)
11-02-2007 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Hyroglyphx
11-02-2007 11:13 PM


Re: Tying it to Bush Administration?
How can any thinking person blame all the abject misery in the world on one man's shoulders? Explain that to me.
No one blames all the abject misery in the world on Bush. Just the misery his administration created.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Rrhain
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Message 33 of 35 (431940)
11-02-2007 11:52 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Hyroglyphx
11-02-2007 11:13 PM


Re: Tying it to Bush Administration?
Nemesis Juggernaut writes:
quote:
So you need no evidence of misconduct on the Bush Administration in order to believe they had a hand in the scandal? Noted. And this coming from Lord Empiricism himself. That's delectable.
Incorrect. We have plenty of evidence. Every single department, every single agency has been filled with political cronies who lie to the press. From the prescription drug plan to education to disaster management to the science departments to the health departments, every single agency has been compromised.
Is not empirical observation that if you observe somebody behaving the same way every time, then it's pretty much expected to behave the same way under similar conditions? Are you seriously claiming that it's just a coincidence that they all screw up in exactly the same way?
quote:
1: For hiring an inexperienced person to run a very serious institution, and 2: For not firing him after the Katrina debacle.
You act like this is an isolated incident, as if the only department that has had trouble is FEMA.
Again, let's not be disingenuous and try to claim that because there is no videotape of Bush calling up Vice Adm. Johnson, then the Bush administration has no connection to this.
Would it really have been so difficult for the #2 man at FEMA to give a press release rather than a fake press conference? The "conference" was thrown together so fast that there was no way for press to be there. The actual press was given a phone number to call where they could listen but ask no questions. Well, that's why they good lord created Adobe Acrobat so you could create a document and email it to all the press outlets detailing the various things you want to say.
What on earth possessed them to think that holding a fake press conference was a good idea? Didn't they learn their lesson from all the other fake news stories they've been caught doing? Didn't the Bush administration claim that they were shocked (SHOCKED, I tell you!) that this had happened and that they would never, ever do it again? How on earth did the #2 man at FEMA come to think that this would be a good idea?
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But alleging misconduct without any kind of substantiated reason to do so is only wishful thinking. It doesn't make it so.
By your logic, Bush either has the worst luck in the world in that every single person he has appointed to every single position has been an incompetent hack or he's a complete moron and is incapable of noticing that they're incompetent hacks. Anything to hold onto your faith that Bush has done no wrong and had absolutely nothing to do with all of his appointees doing the same thing wrong in every single department.
quote:
How can any thinking person blame all the abject misery in the world on one man's shoulders?
Because he's the one who puts those people into their positions.
Because Harry S. Truman used to have a sign sitting on the desk in the Oval Office: The buck stops here.
Because Bush said that he was going to run the government like a business and in business, when the CEO hires incompetent hacks, it means the CEO is to blame.

Rrhain

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crashfrog
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Message 34 of 35 (431949)
11-03-2007 1:19 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Hyroglyphx
11-02-2007 11:13 PM


Re: Tying it to Bush Administration?
So you need no evidence of misconduct on the Bush Administration in order to believe they had a hand in the scandal?
I certainly need no additional evidence than the conduct of this administration for the past 6 years.
Where can I get the wiretaps?
You could start by watching something other than Fox News, the Republican press organ.
Yes, so blame Brown for dropping the ball..... Twice... And blame Bush, 1: For hiring an inexperienced person to run a very serious institution, and 2: For not firing him after the Katrina debacle.
I'm trying to blame him. You and yours seem to think that Bush is never to be blamed for anything. Remember all the conversations we had after Katrina? The insistent refrains that, despite the obvious failures going right to the White House, it was all the fault of Democrats?
For as much as you say "blame Bush", I have to ask - when exactly do you intend to start doing that?
How can any thinking person blame all the abject misery in the world on one man's shoulders?
Who said anything about all of it? Try to address my claims, please, not ridiculous strawmen.
Nonetheless I still don't see how its unreasonable to blame Bush when his appointees follow his example. So answer the question you just glibly dismissed. How can any thinking person, at this point, not see this latest travesty as a direct result of the example set by the President?

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jar
Member (Idle past 394 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 35 of 35 (431986)
11-03-2007 10:48 AM


Yet more evidence that this Administration is evil
Yes, I stepped up from just stupid to evil.
Please read this news article once again showing that the emphasis of this Administration is on "Keeping Industry Safe" and "Maximizing Products".
Did you know that it was not illegal for a manufacturer to resell recalled products? Just find a market were they are not illegal.
This article details the staffing done by the Bush Administration in the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

  
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