The Results are in...There is a God! - What now?

Blackmail pretty much somes it up."Love me! Or else!" sayeth the Lord (Larni. 10:23)I would say that if the xian god was real all the other religious types would be feeling pretty pissed off for having backed the wrong horse.If there was a god running the show what would that do to faith? People would have no reason to not believe in it.Knowing the the xian god is a capricious one I would be shitting my pants if it was real.This message has been edited by Larni, 04-13-2006 05:33 AM

But it is your god who enforced our current 'predicament'. That is like giving us a terminal disease and not giving us the cure untill we jump through hoops for it.Blackmail through and through.

But the xian god did more than write the consequences into the job description; it made sure -by use of it's omnipotence and omniscience- that our ancestors would get it wrong and (by it's whim) be in a position to HAVE to accept it's laws and rules etc.It's not even the fault of the individual either. Your god blames us for deeds we have not committed, it decided (for an unknown reason, making it up as it goes along?) that the child of the sinner is also to blame.If your god had never made the apple and the serpent we could not have sinned.All this is set as parameters of existance by your god.If it made us to not by able to sin we would not be in the position it forced us into i.e. having to abide by its' rules.

So what?Xian god demands we love it without thought or concideration. As a free thinking individual I know why I love the things I love. They mean something to me. That does not reduce the love I feel or express.If one knew a good god existed I would have no problem loving it. The xian god is hardly good by human standards (the only standards that count).

From my interpretation of this: If we love it because we know it is real, thats not good enough it would seem. This only works if you are aware of the xian god. If the initial step is to get to know it, what about the billions who have died without knowing it? Do they go to Hell? Can't argue with your logic here.However, having the very appearance of physical evidence rendering any love for your god of lesser value (and therefor good xians should not look for it, or question (see above)) means we can only guess as to its' standards.Your god has just as much chance of being cruel (as the only evidence we are allowed to percieve would imply) as being nice.

Grrr.... sometimes your aguements are very persuasive!

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Don't believe; think!

When you say your god 'asks', do you mean that in some way it made its prescence known to you in some way as to give you the knowledge of said god?Does this not count as evidence? Would this not render the faith component of worship null and void?

This is just the same old 'god moves in mysterious ways' cop out answer to the contradictions of believing in the xian god.Xians, I would contend HOPE it's all true. Believing something is true for no reason in a delusion, believing something is true for a reason is not faith. How do we know this is the case? It is because we have had some evidence (no matter how many times it has been translated) that this is the case? This evidence leads some to believe your god is real. Thats not faith in the xian god, it's faith in the written word. In doing so it provides the proof. Or do you mean that when one converts one no longer needs faith because one has all the proof one needs?

Have a very Happy Easter Holiday every one!See you all next week LarniThis message has been edited by Larni, 04-13-2006 11:53 AM