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zephyr
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Message 41 of 78 (39093)
05-06-2003 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by gene90
05-06-2003 2:43 PM


WTC families
You're doing an excellent job of avoiding the point there.
It's one thing to support Al-Qaeda, and something completely different for the family of a victim to ask that the death of their kin not be cynically presented as an excuse for military actions whose connection thereto is tenuous at best. By mocking and dismissing the concerns of those families, you're saying it's acceptable to abuse the memory of that tragedy to justify the perpetration of many more.
It seems rather contradictory to cheapen the suffering of victims' families while still claiming 9-11 as a rallying cry.

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zephyr
Member (Idle past 4572 days)
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From: FOB Taji, Iraq
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Message 56 of 78 (39232)
05-07-2003 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by gene90
05-06-2003 3:36 PM


Re: WTC families
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Wait a minute, are you saying that the invasion of Afghanistan was not linked to al-Qaeda?
Last I checked, we were talking about Iraq. Don't tell me that you honestly think this war could have happened without 9-11. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but this is a fairly obvious thesis-antithesis-synthesis. Our country's shock and indignation has been manipulated to create support for a cause. Those of us sufficiently educated about the US's own human rights abuses worldwide, however, were not as shocked and therefore less vulnerable.
quote:
And you seem to have overlooked my point: that you can probably find a family member of a 9/11 victim with any opinion humanly possible, if you look hard enough.
Yes, any opinion could theoretically be found. This has no bearing on the legitimacy of a particular opinion that has in fact been publicly voiced. That's what I chose to focus on.
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I think 9/11 is a clear indicator that the US MUST be proactive in toppling threats. And when we topple dictators like Saddam and bring democracy to the Middle East, all the better.
Several members have already raised the concern that this stance would advocate the invasion of many, many countries around the world with "evil" dictators and possible (even definite) WMDs, etc. Besides, we did not by any means invade Iraq just to remove a threat. This war, as a pre-emptive strike, was completely unprecedented and changes our image drastically. I think it does so in a way that increases the numbers of our potential enemies.
I'm going to leave this discussion now. I'm not sufficiently dedicated to this topic to continue investing my efforts, only to have carefully constructed logic discounted without explanation. Everyone's entitled to their beliefs and I'm happy to leave it at that.

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