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Author Topic:   Budget Deficit Forecast cut by 100 Billion
Tal
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Message 1 of 43 (223597)
07-13-2005 1:18 PM


Link

How about that, Bush's tax cuts are working.

July 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration cut its estimate for this year's budget deficit to $333 billion from a forecast of $427 billion in February because job and income growth is boosting tax receipts faster than expected.

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Jazzns
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Message 2 of 43 (223599)
07-13-2005 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tal
07-13-2005 1:18 PM


Who is conservative?
Nevermind that a 'conservative' adminstration is engaging in deficit spending with reckless abandon in the first place.

Ahh yes, throwing around money, nation building, greater government control over civil liberties, and defiance against the constitution. Gotta love our 'conservative' government.


Organizations worth supporting:
www.eff.org (Protect Privacy and Security)
www.aclu.org (Protect Civil Rights)
www.aaup.org (Protect Higher Learning)

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Chiroptera
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Message 3 of 43 (223602)
07-13-2005 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tal
07-13-2005 1:18 PM


Wow! Only $333 billion deeper in debt! You're right, Tal, this is good news!

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Yaro
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Message 4 of 43 (223606)
07-13-2005 1:55 PM


Holly crap! Only 333 billion dollars?

"You think a little thumb jiggle is gonna make me happy?"


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Chiroptera
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Message 5 of 43 (223615)
07-13-2005 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Yaro
07-13-2005 1:55 PM


Remind me again, Yaro, didn't we used to have a president who could balance the budget?

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Yaro
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Message 6 of 43 (223616)
07-13-2005 3:27 PM


Yes, but he got a blow job, so it dosn't count.

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Tal
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Message 7 of 43 (223619)
07-13-2005 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Yaro
07-13-2005 3:27 PM


I love how you guys react to good news!

Yes, but he got a blow job, so it dosn't count.

Don't forget he commited purgery.


I helped scare an old person-I stopped someone from keeping more of their money-So what if people want to have say in the places they live and the cars that they drive-I gave money to an environmental group that helped keep us dependant on foreign oil-I help the enemies of democracy get stronger by telling them laws don’t matter-What if one day I need an abortion-Sex with an intern, everybody does it-I help teach kids around America that America is always wrong

Do you know what your DNC stands for?


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Chiroptera
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Message 8 of 43 (223620)
07-13-2005 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Tal
07-13-2005 4:04 PM


I'm sorry, Tal, but what good news are you talking about? Five years ago we had a balanced budget. Now we are adding $333 billion to the national debt. How does this indicate that the current administration's economic policies are a success?

Are you referring to the deficit being $100 billion less than originally projected? Well, I guess that it is good news that the administration hasn't screwed up quite as badly as originally thought.


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Yaro
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Message 9 of 43 (223621)
07-13-2005 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Tal
07-13-2005 4:04 PM


Don't forget he commited purgery.

Riiiiight... it was totaly vital that his sex-life be revealed to the public. I'm not so sure I would be too eager to reveal my skeletons on national TV if I were the president either.

It is interesting to note that White Water proved spurrious in the end, and the investigation was fruitless:

Kenneth Starr's successor, Robert Ray, released a report in September of 2000 that stated "This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct." Ray's report effectively ended the Whitewater investigation.

from the wiki.

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Dead Parrot
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Message 10 of 43 (223622)
07-13-2005 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Tal
07-13-2005 4:04 PM


Purgery?
Don't forget he commited purgery.

Clinton used to drain molasses? That terrible. Still, could be worse, he could have commited perjury...

(Sorry Tal. :P having one of those mornings...)


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Monk
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Message 11 of 43 (223625)
07-13-2005 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Chiroptera
07-13-2005 4:09 PM


Chiroptera writes:

Well, I guess that it is good news that the administration hasn't screwed up quite as badly as originally thought.

HaHa. That's somewhat close to a concession and is good as it ever gets in support of conservative viewpoints on this forum. You should be happy with this remark Tal. Of course, Chiroptera didn't post without sarcasm, still...


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coffee_addict
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Message 12 of 43 (223630)
07-13-2005 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Tal
07-13-2005 4:04 PM


Tal writes:

Don't forget he commited purgery.


You want to be specific? I'll be specific with you. Technically, he didn't lie. Congress failed to include fellatio in their definition of "sexual relation".

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Chiroptera
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Message 13 of 43 (223637)
07-13-2005 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Monk
07-13-2005 4:31 PM


Hello, Monk.

I guess I don't understand to what I am supposed to concede. The OP states that the current budget projections indicate a deficit that is about $100 billion less than originally projected. Tal indicates that this is a sign that Bush's tax cuts represent a successful policy. But surely you see that this could also be interpreted as an indication that Bush's policies are a failure, don't you? Here is a quote from the link Tal provided:

Bush's tax policies account for about two-thirds of the deficit, and are the chief reason Congress has had to raise the federal government's borrowing limit three times since Bush took office, Spratt said.

So it would appear that the tax cuts have made the deficit worse, and even if the the deficit will be $100 million less than originally thought, a reasonable interpretation is that a mistaken policy isn't going to make matters quite as bad as originally thought. The OP is such incredibly bad logic that I can't believe that you are trying to defend it.

Or perhaps I am misreading you. Perhaps you took offense at the sarcasm? Or that my comments were disparaging to our Great Leader (may he live forever)? Perhaps if I confined my sarcasm to insulting Tal rather than Bush you wouldn't have take offense?

Edited to fix some typos and awkward phrasing.

This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 13-Jul-2005 10:04 PM


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Chiroptera
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Message 14 of 43 (223647)
07-13-2005 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Jazzns
07-13-2005 1:25 PM


Re: Who is conservative?
quote:
greater government control over civil liberties

Actually, that part has always been part of the conservative agenda. I've always considered a part of the definition of "conservative".


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Monk
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From: Kansas, USA
Joined: 02-25-2005


Message 15 of 43 (223681)
07-13-2005 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Chiroptera
07-13-2005 5:32 PM


Hello Chiroptera,

Your concession, which you qualified, is that the $100 Billion is good news. That's all. Stop there. It's good news.

Without saying what it should have been, who is responsible, how the deficit came to be reduced despite Bush's policies or what is wrong with everything else in the world and especially with what the hated Bush henchmen are doing today to destroy the world, there is a tiny, microscopic, ensy teeny, tidbit of fleeting good news about the budget. Just a smidgen.

Ok, it's gone now, back to Bush bashing.

BTW: No offense at all at the sarcasm, Holmes keeps me busy with that.


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