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Agobot
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Message 1 of 34 (491893)
12-23-2008 5:19 PM


I believe we are here for a reason(I cannot prove for what reason).

I believe the world is knowable and I believe we will one day be able to find out all answers to all questions(and at that time we may well be transcendental and timeless).

I believe God has nothing to do with what the Bible says about him.

I believe that life is common throughout the universe and that we will find another Earth-like planet within a decade.

I believe everything happens for a reason.

I believe the universe does not split on every possible interaction creating infinite universes, in some of which Saddam Hussein is friends with G.W.Bush or Bin Laden is fighting against islamists.

I believe the most beautiful girls in the world live in Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria and Thailand.

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Message 2 of 34 (491915)
12-24-2008 7:40 AM


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Bailey
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Message 3 of 34 (491922)
12-24-2008 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Agobot
12-23-2008 5:19 PM


Merry Christmakwanzahanukkah
Thank you for the exchange.

I believe the most beautiful girls in the world live in Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria and Thailand.

lol - I believe you may be right (although I cannot prove it).

I also believe mankind will not be able to prevent itself from committing species suicide.

Historically speaking, I believe it will occur sooner than later; within one hundred years from WW2.

I believe technology will sustain humanity to its population limit, but technology will not save it from catastrophe, and military technologies like weaponized chemicals and atom bombs will facilitate the disaster.

I believe we will all see the face of the God who Loves us the most.

I believe I wish everybody @ EVC a Merry Christmakwanzahanukkah and a Happy Holiday season !!

One Love


Mercy Trumps Judgement,
Love Weary
The Apostle of the Skeptics writes:

"...picture me alone in that room ... night after night, feeling ... the steady, unrelenting approach of Him
whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. That which I greatly feared had at last come upon me."


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NosyNed
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Message 4 of 34 (491925)
12-24-2008 10:19 AM


Santa Claus
Even now, I still believe in Santa Claus.
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Blue Jay
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Message 5 of 34 (491929)
12-24-2008 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by NosyNed
12-24-2008 10:19 AM


Re: Santa Claus
Hi, Ned

NosyNed writes:

Even now, I still believe in Santa Claus.

Ah, but do you believe in the reindeer too?

That's what always gets me: Santa visiting everyone in a single night, with time dilation, warp drive or whatever is okay with me (I don't understand physics, anyway), but flying reindeer is too much.

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Personally, I still believe in Jesus, heaven and eternal life, even though I now think it's very silly and probably unrealistic.

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Merry Christmas (and other Holidays), everybody!


-Bluejay

Darwin loves you.


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onifre
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Message 6 of 34 (491932)
12-24-2008 12:31 PM
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12-23-2008 5:19 PM


I believe the most beautiful girls in the world live in Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria and Thailand.

I believe you're wrong my friend.

Cuba, Puerto Rico and Brazil...no need to believe, this is a fact. :D


"All great truths begin as blasphemies"

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks

"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky


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Buzsaw
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Message 7 of 34 (491953)
12-24-2008 6:52 PM
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12-24-2008 10:19 AM


Re: Santa Claus
NosyNed writes:

Even now, I still believe in Santa Claus.

Oh. :eek: So your Roman Catholic? ;) Saint Nicklaus was an alleged Catholic saint/priest, you know. :laugh:


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Buzsaw
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Message 8 of 34 (491954)
12-24-2008 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Agobot
12-23-2008 5:19 PM


Say Whaaaat, Agobot???!!!
Agobot writes:

I believe God has nothing to do with what the Bible says about him.

?? :confused: ?? :eek: ?? :frazzled: ??


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Coyote
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Message 9 of 34 (491957)
12-24-2008 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Agobot
12-23-2008 5:19 PM


Lo, the poor Indian!
I believe God has nothing to do with what the Bible says about him.

Lo, the poor Indian! whose untutor'd mind
Sees God in clouds, or hears him in the wind;
His soul proud Science never taught to stray
Far as the solar walk or milky way;
Yet simple Nature to his hope has giv'n,
Behind the cloud-topp'd hill, a humbler heav'n;
Some safer world in depth of woods embrac'd,
Some happier island in the wat'ry waste,
Where slaves once more their native land behold,
No fiends torment, no Christians thirst for gold!
To be, contents his natural desire;
He asks no angel's wing, no seraph's fire:
But thinks, admitted to that equal sky,
His faithful dog shall bear him company.

Alexander Pope, Essay on Man

If you disagree, please provide evidence to support a contrary opinion.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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bluescat48
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Message 10 of 34 (491963)
12-24-2008 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Agobot
12-23-2008 5:19 PM


What do you believe is true, even though you cannot prove it?

Nothing. I accept certain things such as evolution, plate tectonics, gravity, relativity etc. but I believe nothing that has no evidence.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969


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fallacycop
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Message 11 of 34 (491972)
12-24-2008 9:32 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Buzsaw
12-24-2008 6:58 PM


Re: Say Whaaaat, Agobot???!!!
Hey Buz, some people happen to believe that the bible was not written by god, you know?
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Taz
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Message 12 of 34 (491984)
12-25-2008 3:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Agobot
12-23-2008 5:19 PM


Agobot writes:

I believe that life is common throughout the universe and that we will find another Earth-like planet within a decade.


If you're a christian, you're not suppose to believe in life elsewhere in the universe. Why? (1) The bible never mentions any creation elsewhere, (2) we're god's special and there is no other, and (3) the rapture is suppose to be happening pretty darn soon (anytime now).
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Buzsaw
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Message 13 of 34 (492033)
12-26-2008 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Taz
12-25-2008 3:34 AM


Celestial Life
Taz writes:

If you're a christian, you're not suppose to believe in life elsewhere in the universe. Why? (1) The bible never mentions any creation elsewhere, (2) we're god's special and there is no other, and (3) the rapture is suppose to be happening pretty darn soon (anytime now).

There are a number of scriptures relative to life in the cosmos. There are other son's of God mentioned in Job 1 who came to present themselves to God and Satan showed up with them.

In Revelation 5:11 we are told that there are beasts/living creatures, 24 elder creatures serving God and thousands of thousands of angelic creatures assembled in the vicinity of God's throne. In other texts cherub and seraphims etc are mentioned as being out there.

In Daniel it mentions spirit beings who are assigned to nations, evidently assigned by Satan. One of these withstood an angel sent to Daniel but Michael the archangel came to fight the evil one and helped the lesser angel get to Daniel. So there is apparently warfare going on in the cosmos Perhaps that explains some of the warfare and evil that ensues upon planet earth. See Daniel 10:13,14

In Revelation 12 we read a time when Satan and his host of angels are cast out of heaven and onto earth where they inspire the end time antichrist world regime to make war with saints of God and overcome them. This is the great tribulation in which Christians are martyred globally. It's all emerging upon us.

Contrary to what most evangelicals teach, the rapture catching up of Christians to heaven does not happen until after this great tribulation, the darkening of sun and moon, heavens shaken and Christ seen in the clouds etc. . See Mark 13:24-28.

Edited by Buzsaw, : spelling


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Taz
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Message 14 of 34 (492034)
12-26-2008 9:14 PM
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12-26-2008 8:11 PM


Re: Celestial Life
Are you telling me that you're going to launch a crusade against any alien civilization that we may come in contact with?
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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 15 of 34 (492039)
12-27-2008 1:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Agobot
12-23-2008 5:19 PM


I believe in God, but not as one thing, not as an old man in the sky. I believe that what people call God is something in all of us. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong.

Kudos to those who know who I quoted this from

Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.


For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan
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