You didn't need to point me there. I'm aware of it. But the Jews who are anti-Israel I'm thinking of are the diehard leftists among them.
yes, faith, i know who were thinking of. thus, the argument. you have the same problem with israel that you do with america. clearly, the left is against the country. they don't just disagree on how it should be run -- you either support how it's run, or you're anti-israel/anti-america. right, faith. right. us. them.
For some reason Islamic terrorism strikes leftists as a wonderful cause to support.
nobody is supporting terrorism. the problem is that we don't all support occupation or military action that involves a lot of collateral damage and civilian deaths as a solution to the problem. most of us with any familiarity with the region understand that these things just feed the problem and
create more terrorists.
wanna make every palestinian a terrorist? kill their fathers. doesn't matter if they're actually terrorists -- if every child grows up remembering when israel killed their fathers, you'll have a lot of terrorists on your hands. this is something you don't seem to grasp yet. hamas is a charity organization. they fund schools, shelters, and generally help the palestinian peoples (in their own strict muslim way). yes, they have a military wing that tries to blow up israel. but when you kill hamas leaders, all palestinians see is israel killing a charity organization. more martyrs, more terrorists.
This is utterly irrelevant to the specific topic of terrorism and in this particular context its origin in Islamic ideology.
i was explaining the logic to ringo.
Nobody is denying the complications, merely saying that the terrorism is the overarching problem and until that is dealt with the complications, the history, the relation of the terrorists to the average Muslim, is all irrelevant.
that is so completely and utterly ignorant that i don't know how to respond. these things are all factors that feed the problem. you don't fix the problem without fixing these things. you can't just kill all the terrorists. for every terrorist you kill, there are three more waiting to fill his shoes. and you've just made them, by killing someone in their family.
the relations to the average muslim
does matter. a lot. the history does matter, more than anything else. the complications HAVE to be dealt with.
Also, saying that terrorism originates in Islam is not saying that all Muslims are bad.
"bigotry is a christian problem" isn't saying all christians are bad.
but, you see, terrorism
does not originate in islam. islam is a tool that terrorists use to convinve people to commit acts of terror. but islam has strict commandments against suicide, and killing innocent people. "selective reading" and it's most brutally violent.
terrorism originates in political matters. religion is a factor, but not the cause.
Edited by arachnophilia, : typo