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Taz
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Message 2 of 113 (431922)
11-02-2007 9:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Legend
11-02-2007 7:01 PM

Yes, I've been keeping track of this story as well.
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Unfortunately, ordinary folks like us who actually care about what's right and wrong and what's just and unjust can't do a damn thing about it.
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Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style.
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He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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Taz
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Message 14 of 113 (432009)
11-03-2007 12:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 5 by Legend
11-03-2007 7:05 AM

Legend writes:
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yes, we can. We can take action and say enough is enough. They can't jail (or shoot) everyone. Or can they?.
The biggest problem is the majority, if not overwhelming majority, who claim to be moral aren't really moral at all. In a democracy, the majority always wins.
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It is obvious to me that what happened to the electrician was unjust. It is obvious to you that what happened to the electrician was unjust. Unfortunately, it is not so obvious to the rest of society that what happened to the electrician was unjust.
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As far as the rest of society is concern, the law has spoken. Life goes on. It's only people like us that are bothered by the apparent bias. Unfortunately, in short of advocating a violent revolution, there is little else we can do.
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Sugar baby love, sugar baby love
I didn't mean to make you blue
Sugar baby love, sugar baby love
I didn't mean to hurt you.
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All lovers make
Make the same mistakes
Yes they do
Yes, all lovers make
Make the same mistakes
As me and you
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Sugar baby love, sugar baby love
I didn't mean to make you blue
Sugar baby love, sugar baby love
I didn't mean to hurt you.
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People take my advice
If you love somebody
Don't think twice.
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Love you baby love, sugar baby love
Love him anyway, love him everyday
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Taz
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Message 71 of 113 (432268)
11-05-2007 12:02 AM 		Reply to: Message 37 by Legend
11-03-2007 3:24 PM

Legend writes:
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Not true. We live in a republic, not a democracy in the true sense of the word.
Yes, and nitpicking my use of words instead of ideas really help this conversation forward
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If that was the case, Britain would never have participated in the Iraq invasion, for one.
What are you talking about? Tony Blair won the election long after he supposedly lost favor with mose British citizens about the war.
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Today we have the technology that allows us to practice democracy, as it was meant to be, i.e. the public voting on all public matters. I somehow doubt that I'll live to see it, though.
Well... if you didn't know this before, I don't believe in democracy, or even republic.
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Sugar baby love, sugar baby love
I didn't mean to make you blue
Sugar baby love, sugar baby love
I didn't mean to hurt you.
​
All lovers make
Make the same mistakes
Yes they do
Yes, all lovers make
Make the same mistakes
As me and you
​
Sugar baby love, sugar baby love
I didn't mean to make you blue
Sugar baby love, sugar baby love
I didn't mean to hurt you.
​
People take my advice
If you love somebody
Don't think twice.
​
Love you baby love, sugar baby love
Love him anyway, love him everyday
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