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George Bush protecting your civil liberties by breaking them

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Modulous
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Message 17 of 220 (270536)
12-18-2005 3:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 8 by Silent H
12-18-2005 5:07 AM

Re: time of war
I know we've had our disagreements over things in the past but this:
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Our Presidents are not Gods nor Kings. They are Men, and it is OUR RIGHTS which stand above THEM. Otherwise it is just words on paper.
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is beautiful.
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Message 60 of 220 (271165)
12-20-2005 4:51 PM 		Reply to: Message 59 by Tal
12-20-2005 1:19 PM

paraphrasing Tal writes:
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Other presidents may have broken civil liberties
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Tal writes:
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So is Bush still responsible for breaking everybodies civil liberties?
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Yes.
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12-21-2005 5:53 AM 		Reply to: Message 63 by Tal
12-20-2005 10:37 PM

Interesting, how can he be resonsible when he didn't start it?
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In the same way that if I moved in to a murderer's house and committed murder I'd be responsible for murder.
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Message 82 of 220 (271408)
12-21-2005 12:14 PM 		Reply to: Message 77 by custard
12-21-2005 11:55 AM

Presumption of guilt?
Do you have evidence these people AREN'T terrorists? If not, it's pretty pointless arguing this hypothetical. Until demonstrated otherwise, I will trust that the right people have been detained.
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I didn't realise you guys had dropped the presumption of innnocence.
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02-03-2006 6:32 AM 		Reply to: Message 205 by Silent H
02-03-2006 4:56 AM

Re: We are not at War
Heheheh... you forgot. First he handed them the explosives and then he said "bring it on" (specifically meaning "attack our troops"). I don't see how a dem would have ever survived that mistake and the resulting carnage. That was not just aiding and abetting, it was incitement to kill our troops.
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I must have missed all of this. Got a link? Sounds interesting.
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