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Dr Adequate
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Message 25 of 50 (420765)
09-09-2007 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Ihategod
09-08-2007 9:30 PM


Evaporites
Another question and please humor poor ol' me: Let's assume that there are no valves or paleosols found in the rock strata what is to stop anyone from suggesting biblical flood geology isn't possible?
Off the top of my head ... evaporites are pretty damning. These are strata of minerals which dissolve in water (salt, for example). According to conventional geology, they're deposited when a shallow sea dries up.
They couldn't have been deposited by the flood, 'cos they're water-soluble, and they couldn't have been deposited during the drying-up period after the flood, because then they'd all be on top, which they aren't.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 34 of 50 (420974)
09-10-2007 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Ihategod
09-10-2007 1:08 PM


Re: starting over? or a review
The basics of geology apply to what can be observed, but assumed that the earth has operated the same way always for billions of years. Basic geology for catastrophism only goes so far back before it is erroneous.
But as I've pointed out once or twice already, this "assumption" is testable. If scientists saw something in the geological record which could not be explained by the laws of nature, then they would notice. They'd be the first to notice, because they know what these laws are. Whereas you, and I mean this kindly, wouldn't recognise actual geological evidence for a miraculous universal flood if it bit you in the ass.
So we must either conclude:
(a) The supposed miracle never happened.
(b) God decided to jerk us all around by performing a miracle in such a way that it would look like completely normal geology even to experienced geologists.
Option (b) is known as the "Omphalos" hypothesis, and has widely been dismissed as silly.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 37 of 50 (421002)
09-10-2007 4:53 PM
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09-10-2007 4:38 PM


Okay, let's phrase this more carefully.
If there was evidence of a universal flood 4000 years ago, inexplicable by the laws of nature as they are presently known to geologists, then geologists would notice.
My point is merely that they would notice if something violated their "assumptions", whether this anomaly was supernatural or inexplicable yet natural.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 43 of 50 (421533)
09-13-2007 3:41 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Ihategod
09-12-2007 6:45 PM


Re: DOUBT THAT
If geologists ran into something supernatural they would use ways to naturally explain it, or they would deny it.
Do you have any evidence for this fantasy?
You think these scientists are objective truth telling machines who are massively equipped with the highest state of morals and ethics.
As this fantasy is about my opinions, I am well-placed to point out that you are deluded.
If they ain't getting no grant money fo' day work cuz uncle bob thinks Godidit, well hell, theys goin' ta find nother way of splainin' things.
If you are trying to say that acceptance of creationism would lead to a complete cessation of scientific research ... then this is unusually frank of you.

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