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crashfrog
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Message 55 of 86 (143261)
09-19-2004 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by riVeRraT
09-19-2004 8:56 PM


I have a common sense understanding of science and physics way beyond any jerk scientist that went to 8 years of college, just because I can look around at things at see whats going on.
Ok, then you shouldn't have any problem with this:
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There is a wheel of r = 0.38m and m = 1.3kg and attached to that wheel from a cord is a 0.70kg block that is 1.2m off the ground. If the block is released from rest, what speed will it have just before it hits the floor if there is no friction at the wheel's axis?
You have 20 minutes, which is about how twice as much time as a "jerk scientist" with a degree in physics would take.

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crashfrog
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Message 67 of 86 (143327)
09-20-2004 11:34 AM
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09-20-2004 8:40 AM


At what point on the wheel is the block? The top or bottom?
It's at first point on the wheel where its motion would be strictly downward, obviously.
A "jerk scientist" wouldn't have even needed to ask. Everything you need is in the problem. Go to!
But since you mention rotation of the wheel, I am guessing top of the wheel?
Still wrong. The weight is at that point of the wheel where its motion would be strictly downward, obviously.

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crashfrog
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Message 71 of 86 (143520)
09-20-2004 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by riVeRraT
09-20-2004 10:47 PM


I thought that might have meant released from the cord also.
Jesus, RR, you don't have a clue what's going on in this question, do you? It's a simple problem in angular momentum, one that a first-year physics major might encounter as a "refresher" on the first day.
Being that I have not been taught the formulas,
Shouldn't matter. Remember, you're the one that claimed that you could do just as well as "jerk scientists" equipped with nothing more than your own common sense.
Well, go to. Employ common sense and solve the problem as well as a first-year physics student.
This is correct?
No, because you haven't taken into account the radius of the wheel, which effects its angular momentum.
This all happens in a vacum right?
Air resistance is negligible, so if you want to assume a vacuum, that's fine.
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crashfrog
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Message 83 of 86 (143644)
09-21-2004 12:06 PM
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09-21-2004 8:46 AM


But maybe for someone who went to college, and was taught this as a standard in problems, he would reconize it.
I have no training in physics whatsoever - absolutely none - but I was able to recognize this as a problem in angular momentum.
So if I figure this out, you gonna kiss my Christian ass right?
No, I'm going to point out that, so far, it's taken you 2 days and 3 tries to do what first-year physics students do in 10 minutes.
The odds are way stacked up against me.
Yes, by virtue of the fact that you have no education in physics. But see, that's the point. Contrary to what you claimed, you're at a significant disadvanatge to all those "jerk scientists" you so casually dismissed.
Now that you've admitted that, the problem has served its purpose. You can solve it if you like, but you don't have to. If you do, though, show your work.
I've been thinking about it for the past day, how I am going to attack this.
I'll give you a hint. A wheel is just a round lever.

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