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Author Topic:   Was there a worldwide flood?
JonF
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Message 29 of 372 (411183)
07-19-2007 8:50 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Theagle
07-19-2007 2:05 AM


So how else would you sugust that a fossil made it to the top of a mountain?

It's worth pointing out that a fludde does not explain the presence of fossils on the tops of mountains and the condition in which they are found. Leonardo da Vinci figured this out in the 15th century; apparently creationists are still stuck in the 14th century. See Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519).


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Message 286 of 372 (510977)
06-05-2009 8:07 AM
Reply to: Message 281 by Peg
06-05-2009 2:13 AM


70% of the earth is covered in water
There is more land under the sea then there is above it

is that not evidence of flooding?


It is not evidence of flooding.

Another SASQ.


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Message 301 of 372 (511004)
06-05-2009 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by anglagard
06-05-2009 9:04 AM


Re: Worldwide flood -- not
Well, did it ever occur to you or your uncited 'source' that there were different species of the same date 200km away in a different type of sediment because they represent a different environment?

African pig fossils are well understood and widely studied, and are used as index fossils. If you have radiometric dating of a formation but the pig fossils associated with that formation are from an older or earlier time, there's a problem somewhere. I'm not familiar with the case that Peg "cites", but disagreeing with pig fossils is what clued investigators there was something wrong with the original radiometric dates of the KBS Tuff, immortalized from a creationist point of view in Lubenow's Bones of Contention. In the real world the KBS Tuff story is one of a triumph of the scientific method and consilience.


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Message 347 of 372 (511311)
06-09-2009 7:40 AM
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06-09-2009 1:47 AM


Re: Genetics and Pigs
In fact, the dating of the KBS tuff was rejected because the pig fossils were not the same type.

I think it's more accurate to say the the original dating of the KBS Tuff was questioned because of pig fossils, and ultimately rejected because scientists figured out what went wrong.


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Message 355 of 372 (511529)
06-10-2009 7:33 AM
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06-10-2009 4:47 AM


Re: Genetics and Pigs
. In the example i gave, the pigs are in the same sediment layer, are dated to the same time but are a different types of pig.

You haven't given any example. You've made a vague reference to something without sufficient detail. We've presumed that you are talking about the KBS Tuff story.

If our presumption is correct, your claim of inconsistency is wrong. The apparent inconsistency in KBS Tuff dating was resolved by finding errors in the original dating.

If our presumption is wrong, you need to provide the details of your story and the references from which we can avaluate the data.

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.


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