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crashfrog
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Message 4 of 28 (221391)
07-02-2005 8:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Mission for Truth
07-02-2005 7:28 PM


Be Here Now
I would be the one standing with my drink, in appropriate conservative clothing sipping on my rum and coke while talking to a hot girl I'd love to take home (and she wants the same, but is wating for me to say the right thing so she can say her thing and then we can go home together) but for some stupid reason I can't bear to do the expected boring thing and lower myself to needless convention, consequently, I go home alone.
Let me share with you something that it took me a long, long time to learn.
Women aren't voice-activated robots. Seriously. There's no magic sequence of syllables that's going to invoke a relationship with one. If the women aren't going home with you, it's not because you're not saying the magic words. It's because, probably, you're not asking them to go home with you.
I mean, seriously. What makes you think the hot girl opposite you is all that interested in meaningless chit-chat, to begin with? What would make you think that women are turned on by meaningless, empty conversation?
Stop trying to figure out how to play the role that you think will get you laid, and start trying to connect with people. Ask questions about them and be interested in the answer. If the person you're talking to isn't interesting, then go talk to somebody else. This applies to men and women, in fact. If you're going home alone it's because you're too removed from the situation. You need to engage - and be engaged by - people. Not study them at a remove.
I used to think of people as secondary characters in a story starring me. Wisdom came to me when I realized that everyone is the main character in their own life story. My awkwardness in social situations declined as a result.
What is preventing me from conversing with the people I like to hang around?
You.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 8 of 28 (221446)
07-03-2005 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by robinrohan
07-03-2005 9:17 AM


Re: Be Here Now
That's probably the biggest hindrance to communication.
Hell, for that matter its the biggest hindrance to not slaughtering "those other people" in some kind of misguided holy war.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 11 of 28 (221960)
07-05-2005 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Mission for Truth
07-05-2005 10:06 AM


Re: Thanks
I think one of the main problems is I can't let go of the necessary inhibitions so I may have a few strong drinks, and then too many inhibitions are gone.
I guess I'm somewhat unclear on what exactly you feel you need to do at a party in order to have fun that you feel you're inhibited from doing. Talking?
I'm all for a good conversation but I find no one is interested in the things I like (general science, scientific issues, life, people, the mind, travel). At least in the parties I go to.
Obvious advice: Go to different parties. I don't know what there is to do in Halifax, but I would suggest you investigate local clubs, organizations, and societies. Whether or not you're a student, stop by your local university's activity fair and find out what campus organizations might be avaliable to you. Few of them will mind if you're not actually a student; the nerdier the club the more likely they are to welcome any interested party.
Use Google Local ( Google Maps ) and search for keywords that you're interested in. (The Gilbert and Sullivan Society of Nova Scotia? Sounds awesome!)

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 19 of 28 (222489)
07-07-2005 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Michael
07-06-2005 7:54 PM


Re: question
I'm not sure how old you are, or what kind of women you're into.
I know that, for myself, I'm attracted to women who are adults - in other words, they're pretty well tired of the bullshit, and they're about ready for a man to come out straight with them and say "hey, you seem cool, I'd like to take you out to a movie or a science-fiction convention sometime, or even just stay in and watch Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country." (Hey, it worked on my wife.)
I guess what I'm saying is, only you know the answer to your question. And if you don't know - that is, you don't know what she likes in a guy - then you need to get to know her better. Hopefully, your charmingly-inept VM's actually invited her to something, or else there wasn't much point.

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