anti-abortion folks still get abortions

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She knows who God is!!! And she likes men too!! She probably just described herself biblically.
She has no clue.That's enough for now. Sorry, I do not agree with what this person, or her husband believes in. But I believe in the right to allow her to believe in whatever she wants. She has an agenda, I try not to.This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 03-24-2006 05:52 AM

Oh really? From that response I gave, can you explain logically what my agenda is? Or are you just saying that because I believe in God?

Someone accused me of having an agenda, without any proof, or explaining why. Isn't that against forum rules? Argue the point, not the person? No unwarranted claims?If an admin is not going to come in here, and not set straight what the rules are to him, then I will defend myself, I see you decided to only pick on me, as usual, like you've never gone off-topic in any of your posts. EVER.

True. Absolutely I dispute it.If I tried to tell you about Christianity, and said, hey there are 2 billion Christians in the world, Christianity is correct! What would your response be?How do you base what is right and wrong on what people do?I am sure there are just as many people who would vote for abortion, but would never consider getting one themselves. Are we counting them?There is no strength in trying to make a group of people look like hypocrites. You willl only succeed in making them look like hypocrites, not actually make a logical arguement for what you stand for.She's trying to say here, look, look! The anti-abortionists are getting abortions! It must be ok then, and they are lying!!Since when are all catholics anti-abortionists?And what about that 16 year old girl who one day got an abortion, and then the next day was outside protesting? You think she did that because she was for or against? Obviously there is another problem there, with her parents, and the real issue is not the abortion, but how her parents treat her.Just like most unwanted pregnancies, the real issue is not the pregnancy, but getting pregnant. Abortion is not a cure for it, it's a band aid.I am a plumber, if I came into your house, and you had a leaking pipe, that was rusted, and all I did was put some tape on it, you know it would leak again. You wouldn't hire me again. It would keep leaking, and I would keep fixing it, until it would fail completely, just like a womans uterus, the place where life begins, has now turned into nothing more than a sink trap, that we pour draino down to clean up when, oops! I got pregnant.I am not talking about rape, or medical reasons here.Most of these people who are for abortion, should be helping the world not have unwanted pregnancies, but you don't see that.

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Nobody hates a hypocrite more than me. But I still wouldn't use it to argue a point. Some good friends of mine run Care-net
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They have one facility across from the abortion clinic, and the way it was expressed to me, is that it wasn't a friendly relationship.
But I know thats not the rule.But why is it I hear so much more about abortion, than help for unwanted pregnancies, or programs to encourage kids NOT to have sex. Having sex at a young age messes up your life, in more ways than one. Unfortunatly our society glorifies it, and it's solution is to have abortions, way to go.

Niether, they are just mixed up people, who are hypocrites.
There are many on both sides. Has nothing to do with the actual issue.

Well, I didn't just unjustly accuse her of an agenda, I went to her web-site and read up on exactly what she stands for. Her agenda is listed, mine is not, there-for it is not the same, and funkaloyd is blowing smoke.

Why must you talk with such an irratating tone?Please explain to the peanut gallery when sex-ed was ever mentioned, and when I said it was a bad idea.I happen to be for sex-ed, which I was one of the first students in NYC to take the course.I never went to bible camp. You have no clue who I really am, so stop guessing. If we knew each other in real life, we would get along great. I get along with everyone. Finally some truth, thank you. I agree.

I took that into account.My "agenda", is not an agenda.My driving force in life is to try and love others, the way I love myself, and to forgive. It is not "Something to be done, especially an item on a program or list." Her's is.

I do not disagree that those people, according to "statistics" are in fact hypocrites. Each one having their own reasons for doing so.But the same could be said for someone who doesn't care if others get an abortion, but would never get one themselves.So it probably balances out.That is why it is not a good point to argue.

I am not against male birth control, but it is not the solution.The solution is no sex.Why do you think the Old Testament was so strict about having sex?
Virginity was held with the highest regard in life, and you weren't anything if you lost your virginity in a unpure, or not accepted way.It really does solve a whole lot of physical, and mental issues.Don't take this wrong, I am just pointing it out, not saying we should actually go back to the OT rules.Ever see the movie 40 year old virgin?

Na, both are bad.Who are we to judge why they did what they did, and it's all based on some survey.

I am not an expert on Leviticus, but I do know that most people who read it, would not understand it, because the times were completely different. It is easy to think how atrocious things were, when in fact they might not have been. It's all relative.You can't take bits and pieces of it, and comment on it, unless you have a full understanding of what, why, when, who, and how. Then we just start taking things out of context, something we all could do very easily.The point was/is, that virginity holds a certain value, many good s things come with it, and if you watch MTV lately, you'll see that our society does not think so. Teens are under great pressure to have sex, and they shouldn't be.

Not in teens. I mentioned it because of all the trouble he went through as a teen, and the pressures he faced just to try and get it on.
All the peer pressure he faced from his teen life, and then in is current life, and it all wasn't worth it.I know a few virgins, and they seem pretty healthy to me. They have a purity about them, that no-one else has.I would think that sex causes more diseases/problems (physical/mental) than it cures. I am not talking about healthy monogamous sex between 2 people that love each other, and are married.