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Author Topic:   Far left - US/UK definition
PaulK
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Message 301 of 305 (226242)
07-25-2005 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by Faith
07-25-2005 1:14 PM


Re: Possibly explaining things a little
Or because the U.S. is on the whole right wing by European standards - and because there is no tidy division. For instance, whatever the Tory leadership really think about the NHS they certainly aren't prepared to say they want to scrap it. But you would be seen as a "leftist" in the U.S. to suggest any sort of equivalent there.

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Chiroptera
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Message 302 of 305 (226243)
07-25-2005 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by CK
07-25-2005 1:13 PM


Re: Possibly explaining things a little
Reminds me of the last school I was at. For some reason, at the biannual street fair our rather left-leaning union always had a booth right next to the John Birch Society's.

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Faith 
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Message 303 of 305 (226245)
07-25-2005 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 276 by ringo
07-25-2005 11:39 AM


Its subjectivity can be objectified, which *I* have explained to *YOU ALL* ad nauseum on this thread. No wonder it's not getting anywhere. To be objective when "everything I disagree with is left wing" means to define those things as my views and bring other views in to compare until we have a picture where all the definitions fall.
Yes I know Steve is to the left of me.

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Faith 
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Message 304 of 305 (226247)
07-25-2005 1:38 PM
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07-25-2005 1:21 PM


Re: Possibly explaining things a little
Or because the U.S. is on the whole right wing by European standards - and because there is no tidy division.
Not yet, and maybe never because nobody will try to sort it all out, but there's nothing in principle preventing it. Simply allowing for the left or right overall differences is already a help toward sorting it out.
For instance, whatever the Tory leadership really think about the NHS they certainly aren't prepared to say they want to scrap it. But you would be seen as a "leftist" in the U.S. to suggest any sort of equivalent there.
So we allow for the left-shift in the UK and that explains why what here is far left is only somewhat left there. That appears to be a consistent pattern.

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Message 305 of 305 (226250)
07-25-2005 1:41 PM


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