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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
she's 5'2" hon. shorter than me.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
quote: anorexia and bulimia are psychological disorders which are generally resulting from a desire to control life and changes. while they probably also want to look pretty (who doesn't want to be attractive?) it is a reflection more of 'my life is out of control, but i can control my body.' it's not so much a diet gone wrong as something so much more complicated. the media has oversimplified the matter, but if you watch all the godawful lifetime-style biographies (which have managed to be fairly truthful with family histories) these women (like pena's wife) are seeking to control something -anything- in their lives, not fawning over kate moss.
quote: i characterize eating as boring. i'm 5'3" and weigh 150lbs. i find your attempt at a diagnosis stupid. that characterization was probably some kind of misquote... that's the media for you. i find it amusing how people denegrate the media for its images but don't do the same for its 'information' which they later quote to serve their purposes. eating is boring. everything tastes the same and half the food out there is italian and there's nothing new and not enough vegetables and it's all too expensive. food is very boring.
quote: any doctor who would advise the eating of unhealthy foods just to 'fatten someone up' is not practicing properly. perhaps your friend isn't eating often enough or in large enough portions, but packing her with fatty dairy products is silly. (note: i like dairy and i'm not one of those weird omg not cow milk people.)
quote: the media is not an information source. it's an entertainment entity. if people wanted to see ordinary people, then the media would show it. but people don't want ordinary. if they did, they could walk outside. the tv is a fantasy box. its characters are fantastic and so is everything else on it. people want to buy fantasy and sensation precisely because it's NOT ordinary. and the media (being a capitalist venture) sells people what they want to buy. it is when people forget that it's fantasy that you have a problem. but that's not their problem. rather, the naivete of the blinded consumer is like unto the blinded faith of sheep following anything. and i believe you have been vocal about people abandoing such practices before.
quote: no. take my word as a large breasted woman. i was not always chunky (and even now i'm reasonably 'hot'... i get looks. whatever) but that's it. i get looks. i don't get talked to, guys aren't interested in me. people treat girls with large breasts like they are freaks and whores. little boobs are way in. just go into a store and try to find a bra made by a well-known name in any size larger than c. (btw. c is not large. omg no.) the preference is for well proportioned bodies (even larger ones) with smaller breasts that look like individual breasts. i can't tell you how many guys have told me they prefer them smaller. oh yes and arach and my friend and her tininess. she's now dropped back out of triple digits but her hips changed shape (the bones actually moved, we picked on her and told her she finally hit puberty). but she still eats like mad. all the focus on the media and its 'negative' portrayal of women has given people an excuse to ignore the fact that fat isn't healthy. yeah sure a little rounded is fine and dandy but just being plain fat, doing nothing about it and saying oh blah blah blah those women are just anorexic and not normal and they airbrush them and bitch piss moan i wanna be a jedi master. if you wanna fix feeling bad about yourself, get off your lazy bum and make yourself different. don't starve yourself, move your butt. screw what you think people think. i have a friend who is probably just under being characterized as obese. she did martial arts (and was on her way to the olympics) until her ankles gave out. she ate healthily and exercised all the time and was still big. she felt great about herself. and it showed. she always looked amazing and she taught me that image is a projection. body image is something you create in your head. the rare occasions where poor body image reflects specific abuse is more related to parental abuse than popular culture. if parents tell children that they have to be pretty to be loved, that's not the fault of the media, but of shitty parenting. if you think that you are worthless because of your body then that is something that you did and not something that someone drove into you. i'm not terribly fond of my figure, but i know that i need to start exercising again. i don't hate myself because i've gotten lazy, i just think i'm a bit lazy. i am still a sensual and worthwhile person and i use my body to the best extent i can. This message has been edited by brennakimi, 07-17-2005 01:36 PM
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
gimme a little while to get a better job then i'm game. on that note, paul bought a polish cookbook so i might get daring.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
the q is 5'10" the p is 5'2". see the difference?
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
*blushes*
i'm just trying to demonstrate, though, that the idea that many have that big boobs will change the world is a flaming pile of poo.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
it is apparent to me that the source of your issue is with parents. the media did not make your parents mistreat you. american culture did not force your parents to only value the superficial.
there's an awful lot of very small and very slender women in india. why don't you mine me some stats about eating disorders there (among the higher classes). the thing with psychology is that it's an ongoing learning science. there are no real rules yet. there is much debate on causality and no real empirical standards (people have uncontrolable variables). you could have a thousand papers saying that there is a correlation with people obsessed with their weight and people who stare at pictures of attractive well-loved people all the time. but that wouldn't change that there are a thousand other papers that say that such is simply a symptom of obsession with a goal of being loved. but to say that the media should somehow ignore the desires of the people and force an unwanted product just because it might have something to do with little susie thinking she's fat because mommy told her she wasn't good enough when there's significant evidence to show that parental favoritism affects things very severely all the time... that's just silly. especially to say it's playboy's fault. little girls shouldn't even know that playboy exists.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
haha silly bitches with gag reflexes. i pity you all.
This message has been edited by brennakimi, 07-18-2005 04:38 PM
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
well. she's a photographer and wants to be a college professor. so i don't imagine high-powered jobs are important to her. but she is taken seriously in the jobs she takes related to her field.
oh yes and i just turned down a job as a car salesman and -while i wore dress pants and professional looking shoes- i don't fix my nails, i didn't wear makeup to any of the interviews, and i don't fiddle with my hair beyond brushing it. in fact. i went to all the interviews just after showering from my current swim instructor job and riding a half hour in my car with no ac. you get good jobs by having a secure resume and a personable demeanor. if i have to slut myself for a job, i don't want it. This message has been edited by brennakimi, 07-18-2005 04:50 PM
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
nobody ever said that people who get surgery for self-esteem were smart. you get surgery to look different. if you think that looking different is going to fix how you feel... you get what's coming to you i guess.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
yeah. it was an hour drive from my house and commission only and i need something more dependable.
*shrugs* i've seen some fugly people in great jobs. This message has been edited by brennakimi, 07-18-2005 05:32 PM
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
quote: model? no. but how about tom cruise *shudders* (slime ball) or brad pitt?
quote: oh bitch piss moan. advertisement is not the only thing where image is enforced. what about john wayne/james bond movies (etc) and professional sports? how about this. when are boys picked on the most by other boys for being overweight? in high school? no. boys establish their social structure in elementary school. at least girls get a chance to establish a healthy self-image (influenced by parents) prior to middle and high school.
quote: new? dick off. men have been in competition based on prowess for how many thousands of years. but what has always been at stake for them has been life, not self-esteem.
quote: and yet you respond to men with disdain when they ask for equal attention to their sufferings. heartless bitch.
quote: only from equally shallow and worthless people.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
quote: define "LOTS"
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