quote:Seriously, can you name a single male model that all the women know and fawn over? I can't.
model? no. but how about tom cruise *shudders* (slime ball) or brad pitt?
quote:No you're not.
At least, not compared to what is directed at women. According to one study, there are about ten times more appearence-based ads directed towards the readers of women's magazines compared to those directed towards men in men's magazines.
Images of women are used to sell everything, in both men's and women's magazines and also in supposedly non-gendered mags like Time.
I'll agree there's more for men very recently, like in the last 15 years or so.
oh bitch piss moan. advertisement is not the only thing where image is enforced. what about john wayne/james bond movies (etc) and professional sports?
how about this. when are boys picked on the most by other boys for being overweight? in high school? no. boys establish their social structure in elementary school. at least girls get a chance to establish a healthy self-image (influenced by parents) prior to middle and high school.
quote:That's pretty new for you boys. Sucks doesn't it?
new? dick off. men have been in competition based on prowess for how many thousands of years. but what has always been at stake for them has been life, not self-esteem.
quote:Of course I see it. That has been one of my major points that I have repeated many times in this thread but that everyone has avoided; with the recent advent of more advertizing aimed at men which puts forth a narrow physical ideal as something to strive for, we have seen a corresponding increase in body dissatisfaction, eating disorders, fear of fat, and exessive exercising in boys and men.
and yet you respond to men with disdain when they ask for equal attention to their sufferings. heartless bitch.
quote:Fat people get less love. Even a little bit fat.
According to one study, there are about ten times more appearence-based ads directed towards the readers of women's magazines compared to those directed towards men in men's magazines.
and according to every sexual study, men are far more image-based in their attraction to things than women. get that? men are the ones more concerned with image.
now, don't get me wrong. i'm not saying that the entertainment and fashion industry is not partially to blame for screwing up womens' self esteem. i'm just saying, well, grow up and deal with it like everybody else.
Images of women are used to sell everything, in both men's and women's magazines
yes. when a man sees an image of an attractive woman selling him something, our mental cue is "you're not good enough to get this chick, but if you have this, you can be." our image is partly monetary, not just physical.
That's pretty new for you boys. Sucks doesn't it?
no, actually. most of us got over our self-concious awkward stages in high school. we don't blame our problems on society or some magazine we don't even read.
Yes, but a gym membership, as well as being a LOT less expensive than cosmetic surgery,
been to a gym recently? they're not exactly cheep either.
People who get surgery get infections and end up disfigured and even die.
uh, actually surgery is responsible for saving many peoples' lives. for instance, had my father not gotten surgery to have his gall bladder removed, he'd be dead right now from toxic shock syndrome. going under the knife ≠ death and disfigurement.
yes, SILICONE was a bad choice for breast implants. but the person who originally designed them could have told you that.
now, let's talk the benefits of implants for a second. ever hear of something called a mastectomy? would you be opposed to a woman getting an implant to compensate for a lost breast? why or why not?
People who start to go to the gym get more cardiovascularly fit, stronger, lose exess weight and release endorphins into their systems.
something like 90% of the people who start going to a gymn don't go longer than two weeks. that's why gyms charge for a year or two up-front. you know that, right?
advertizing aimed at men which puts forth a narrow physical ideal as something to strive for,
this is like when people blamed video games for school shootings. not everyone lives in their fantasy world 24/7. most of us can tell the difference between reality and fantasy. we KNOW not all women look like the ideal, it's actually a tautology. if all women looked like the ideal, it wouldn't be the ideal. it'd be the average.
most of us know that.
we have seen a corresponding increase in body dissatisfaction, eating disorders,
for the last time, eating disorders RARELY have anything to do with weight issues.
while we're on the topic, care to compare the body dissatisfaction increase with the obesety increase? or is this a no-brainer for everyone else here?
Fat people get less love. Even a little bit fat.
When they get thin, they get approval.
welcome to sexual selection.
think that only works for women?
This message has been edited by arachnophilia, 07-18-2005 08:32 PM
because preference in boob size fluctuates. also, they were WILDLY popular when they first hit the market. that's the way trends work. everybody has to have the newest thing, but the effect wears off after a while.
watch hbo's "breat men" movie. it's very interesting.
Oh, yeah, and cigarettes marketed with cartoons can't possibly be targeted to children, because you have to be 18 to smoke!
Look, I read a magazine called "Harper's." You don't have to be a harper to read it; in fact it has nothing to do with harps or harping. Yes, the magazine is called "Seventeen." Yes, the magazine is targeted at girls younger than that.