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nator
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Message 31 of 101 (298562)
03-27-2006 8:01 AM
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03-24-2006 6:58 PM


Re: thanks
quote:
Good list, but you forgot sunflower oil.
Recent research suggests it is as good or better than olive oil for reducing LDL blood cholersterol. One of our current research projects concerns sunflower insects so I'm kind on into publicizing its benefits. Its the best substitute currently for hydrogenated fats in processed food and it needs half as much irrigation water as corn so its a good option for farmers in dry areas.
Interesting, thanks.
Do you get the benefits only if it is unrefined, expeller pressed oil?

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Message 32 of 101 (298567)
03-27-2006 8:13 AM
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03-27-2006 8:01 AM


Re: thanks
Actually, there are three basic types, and none of them undergo much refinement beyond the expressing process. The newly developed 'Nusun' types are actually those with the qualities that enable them to be substituted for trans-fats in processed foods and restaurant deep-fryers. You can find quite a list of the health benefits here. It is disappointing that pure sunflower oil is so hard to find in grocery stores for direct sale to the consumer. I suspect this is because here is just such an overwhelming demand for it commercially right now.

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nator
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Message 33 of 101 (298570)
03-27-2006 8:17 AM
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03-26-2006 2:20 PM


Re: cooking to preserve healthy qualities
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For example blueberries were mentioned. Would that include blueberry pies, or does the process remove whatever health benefits the natural blueberry might contain?
Well, as far sa I know, you get the benefits of blueberries raw or cooked, although my hunch is that most fruits are going to be better for the less you cook them (except for things like quince and tamarind which you have to cook to eat at all.
Here is a good little bit of info on blueberries. link
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Another specific one I'd like to know more about is the Chili pepper. It sounds like that can be quite healthy, yet I really don't like them much. I think the most I like is dried chili peppers for flavoring (though not eaten directly), or within oriental chili sauces used for dipping (where they are eaten but I have no idea what process they went through). Can those provide benefits, or is raw or lightly cooked the only way?
Fresh chiles have 2 main substances which are healthful; high levels of vitamin C and capsaicin, the "hot" stuff. Also, red chiles (as opposed to green) have beta-carotene which is an anti-oxidant.
Dried are not as good, nutritionally, I don't think.
chili pepper info
If you want to avoid the heat of chiles but also want the vitamin C and beta-carotene, just eat red bell peppers. You won't get the benefits of the capsaicin, but they are still plenty good for you.

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nator
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Message 34 of 101 (298573)
03-27-2006 8:27 AM
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03-26-2006 3:02 PM


yes, that would be too dangerous
Wow, Crash, I might just have to crush on you a little bit if you keep feeding me your self-invented food porn.
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Heh, that's why I don't post pictures of me on the forum.
Here, I found one of you on the internet:

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Message 35 of 101 (298595)
03-27-2006 9:27 AM
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03-27-2006 8:27 AM


Re: yes, that would be too dangerous
Ah, they got my good side, I see.

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Jazzns
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Message 36 of 101 (298602)
03-27-2006 9:46 AM
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03-26-2006 2:20 PM


Chili is not a spice!!
Your problem is that it seems like you are using chili as a spice rather than a straight up food. If you are ever in Albuquerque drop me a line and I'll hook you up. =)
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Message 37 of 101 (298705)
03-27-2006 1:40 PM
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03-27-2006 9:46 AM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
As I don't like stews, what is another good way to prepare a chili to eat which maintains its healthy qualities?

holmes
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crashfrog
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Message 38 of 101 (298760)
03-27-2006 4:05 PM
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03-27-2006 1:40 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
Chile rellenos? My dad loves em. Or you could stuff the peppers with something else. Big chiles will be a lot less spicy (especially once the seeds and white stuff are trimmed out. Don't touch your eyes after you do that, though, or wear gloves. I made that mistake - once.)
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Silent H
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Message 39 of 101 (298766)
03-27-2006 4:23 PM
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03-27-2006 4:05 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
Big chiles will be a lot less spicy (especially once the seeds and white stuff are trimmed out.
From schraf's link and some other things I've looked into, it seems that the capsaicin which is supposed to provide the cancer benefits is found within the seeds. Is this true and if so, doesn't removing the seeds destroy all benefits?

holmes
"Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." (Lovecraft)

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Message 40 of 101 (298777)
03-27-2006 4:46 PM
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03-27-2006 4:05 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
oh god chile rellenos. *creams*
can you give me a good recipe? i've had excellent ones and icky ones at restaurants and i'm terrified of doing it myself (heh.)

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 41 of 101 (298778)
03-27-2006 4:47 PM
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03-27-2006 4:23 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
not altogether, but yes, most of the capsaicin is in the seeds. but most people can't take the heat. even bell pepper seeds have some. just try to eat as much as you can without um. roasting.

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Jazzns
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Message 42 of 101 (298804)
03-27-2006 6:17 PM
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03-27-2006 1:40 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
crash mentioned rellenos which are good.
New Mexican green chili enchiladas are my favorite place to each chili if I am eating new mexican food. You can't really get these anywhere outside of the state that I have found. Maybe in a couple of hole in the wall places in the surrounding states.
In terms of mexican or new mexican food green chili is a base in burritos, fajitas, navajo tacos, and probably more that I am not thinking of.
Here though we put green chili on everything. It is a pizza topping, a hamburger add-on. You can put it in a salad, stuff chicken with it, make pasta with it.
The standard fare you can probably import in frozen form, maybe, is Bueno or NM Tortilla Co. but those are not as good as fresh. Then again in most cases nothing is as good as fresh.

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Jazzns
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Message 43 of 101 (298805)
03-27-2006 6:18 PM
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03-27-2006 1:40 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
I can give recipies for enchiladas to whomever wants them too. As long as you can get ahold of the chili. Red chili enchiladas are also not bad and it might be easier to get ahold of red chili outside of NM or so I have heard.

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crashfrog
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Message 44 of 101 (298817)
03-27-2006 7:26 PM
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03-27-2006 4:23 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
Is this true and if so, doesn't removing the seeds destroy all benefits?
I don't know how much capsaicin you need for the benefit, so I'm not sure. The flesh of the pepper has plenty, it isn't located just in the seeds and white stuff but it is most concentrated there.
If you don't like chiles, or overly spicy foods, leaving the seeds in is going to result in food you don't want to eat, and you don't get any benefits if you don't eat it. The whole foods store where I used to live actually sold pill machines, so I guess you could theoretically press the seeds, or some kind of seed extract, into pill form where it wouldn't burn your mouth on the way down.

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crashfrog
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Message 45 of 101 (298819)
03-27-2006 7:27 PM
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03-27-2006 4:46 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
can you give me a good recipe?
I can't, sorry. I don't really like them so I don't know how to make them. Like I said it's my dad who really likes them.

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