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nator
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Message 46 of 101 (298961)
03-28-2006 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Silent H
03-27-2006 1:40 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
quote:
As I don't like stews
I must say, that is a new one for me.
What do you find disagreeable about stewed food?

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Message 47 of 101 (299024)
03-28-2006 2:46 PM
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03-28-2006 10:13 AM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
What do you find disagreeable about stewed food?
They generally look disgusting to me, feel slimy or watery in texture, and don't sit well in my digestive tract. I don't really like soups either as they tend to make me feel not too well.
I am not saying I think this is an objective quality of stews. This is just how they don't "go down" well with me. I have had a sketchy digestive tract as well as a sensitivity to certain textures for a long time.

holmes
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nator
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Message 48 of 101 (299058)
03-28-2006 5:58 PM
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03-28-2006 2:46 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
That's interesting.
I have always thought of soups and stews as very comforting, soothing sorts of foods and of course it is conventional wisdom that clear soup is the classic food to eat when one is sick and cannot manage anything heavier.
Not saying you are wrong for having a preference, just noting that it is unusual.
What kinds of textures work better for you?

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Silent H
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Message 49 of 101 (299206)
03-29-2006 3:39 AM
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03-28-2006 5:58 PM


Re: Chili is not a spice!!
Not saying you are wrong for having a preference, just noting that it is unusual.
I have a dysfunctional digestive tract. I do agree that when really sick clear soup or jello is the best thing to take until I can get back to solids. Once eating solids soups can cause cramps.
What kinds of textures work better for you?
The texture issue is different than the issue above. For some reason certain textures in my mouth make me react in disgust. I think my main issue is homogeneity of texture. For example I don't like it when there is something semi-tough with something liquidy (like stews), suddenly it all seems like slime around something rotten. Or sometimes having something crunchy (like onions) in something soft (like pizza) is disturbing as it is almost like having a mouthful of insects.
I have also had issues with taste, which have roamed back and forth over the years. I'll like something and suddenly out of nowhere the taste is revolting. Or something I've never liked the smell or taste of suddenly smells delicious and I find I can eat it.
Yes, I have eating problems.

holmes
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U can call me Cookie
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Message 50 of 101 (299225)
03-29-2006 5:38 AM
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03-23-2006 9:34 PM


Re: thanks
Capsaicin is good for you, and if used properly, certainly enhances the taste of most foods.
However, i hear that too much capsaicin has been linked to stomach cancer. Also, it increases acid production in the stomach - good news if you're hypo-acidic, bad news if you're hyper-acidic.
For some reason, part of my digestive tract reacts very badly when it comes into contact with chilli. Had this problem for years, and just taught myself to handle it, since i didn't want to stop using chillies in my food (its kinda hard to do in an indian family). However, over the past few months i've developed another problem, specifically stomach discomfort, symptoms of which point to an ulcer (but i'm too much of a wuss, to go and check it out). Anyway, I finally decided to totally cut chilli, and anything particularly hot, out of my diet. And i've experienced quite a bit of improvement
Hmmmm...seems i've turned the stereotype of the chilli-munching indian on it head

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Message 51 of 101 (299261)
03-29-2006 8:06 AM
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03-29-2006 5:38 AM


Re: thanks
go get it looked at. ulcers are caused by bacteria. they can give you a pillk and it will go away. if you don't, it will perforate and you'll die. and we don't want that.

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DynamicGreens
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Message 52 of 101 (415934)
08-12-2007 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Silent H
03-23-2006 4:39 PM


Wheatgrass is for real
The problem with some people that talk about things like wheatgrass is that they don't normally have scientific proof...yet they try to use scientific terms. They simply shouldn't.
We are a wheatgrass juice company and believe firmly that there is something particularly unique about wheatgrass juice. What we understand about wheatgrass juice really isn't over complicated. Essentially, we know: i) it has a broad spectrum of nutrition (compared to other tested foods); ii) being juiced makes it extremely easy to digest and assimilate; and iii) most of us need high quality fuel because we eat diets that include lots of denatured foods that have become nutritionally devoid.
At this point in time, science has identified over 3,800 nutrients and recognizes that there may be countless unidentified ones. When you realize this, you understand that the only meaningful measures we have are either validated scientific or personal observations.
As a wheatgrass juice supplier, we simply cannot afford to fund scientifically validated studies. What we have done is try to capture customer expereinces by putting a health forum in place that customers can post in directly. You should read these, they are very interesting. The forum can be found at:
Research
Tell me what you think...
Derek Stem
DynamicGreens | The Wheatgrass Juice People
http://www.dynamicgreens.com Website
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1-877-910-0467 Toll Free (US / Canada)

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nator
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Message 53 of 101 (416046)
08-13-2007 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by DynamicGreens
08-12-2007 11:40 PM


Re: Wheatgrass is for real
quote:
We are a wheatgrass juice company and believe firmly that there is something particularly unique about wheatgrass juice.
Of course you do! If you didn't, you certainly wouldn't say so out loud.
quote:
What we understand about wheatgrass juice really isn't over complicated. Essentially, we know: i) it has a broad spectrum of nutrition (compared to other tested foods); ii) being juiced makes it extremely easy to digest and assimilate;
But is that really true? How do you know if the nutrients are easily assimilated if you haven't tested it?
quote:
and iii) most of us need high quality fuel because we eat diets that include lots of denatured foods that have become nutritionally devoid.
Can you be more specific here?
I mean, the minute any food molecule hits our digestive juices they are denatured. Can you explain how food that is "denatured" is less nutritious than food that isn't?
And, are you claiming that wheatgrass has a lot of nutrients or a lot of calories? You used the word "fuel", which to me refers to energy (like carbohydrates or fats), rather than minerals or vitamins.
quote:
At this point in time, science has identified over 3,800 nutrients and recognizes that there may be countless unidentified ones. When you realize this, you understand that the only meaningful measures we have are either validated scientific or personal observations.
Actually, it is only the scientific measures which are valid in determining if wheatgrass juice does all it's proponets say it does. Personal observations are rather useless in this case, unfortunately.
quote:
As a wheatgrass juice supplier, we simply cannot afford to fund scientifically validated studies.
Then you shouldn't make any health claims regarding your product.
Tell me, has your company looked in to what it would cost to do, say, urine or blood tests on a couple of hundred people?
quote:
What we have done is try to capture customer expereinces by putting a health forum in place that customers can post in directly. You should read these, they are very interesting.
Testimonials are meaningless as evidence.
I did notice that you make some specific claims on your website. I was unfortunately unable to find the sources for these claims, so perhaps you would be able to provide them? Specifically, I am looking for studies from scientific journals.
For example, your company claims that:
Wheatgrass juice is rich in chlorophyll. Chlorophyll purifies the blood, prevents tooth decay, aids in proper digestion, helps detoxify the liver, keeps the thyroid gland in balance, cleanses internal organs, enhances capillary function, supports sex hormones, decontaminates inorganic chemicals, and builds up white blood cell counts.
Has all of this, plus the long list of other health claims on your site been demonstrated? If so, where can I read the original research? If you are going to make such bold scientific claims on your website, you really should include references to the original research so that people can check to make sure that the claim you are making jibes with the paper you are lifting it from.
It looks to me that your company is making a lot of unsupported claims and looks very much like a quack company.
Lastly, at least one of the claims made on your website is simply wrong and you should change it immediately:
quote:
Tooth decay is the result of degenerative changes in the body
False. Tooth decay is the result of acids produced by bacteria that live in plaque.
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DynamicGreens
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Message 54 of 101 (416123)
08-14-2007 12:52 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by nator
08-13-2007 2:16 PM


Re: Wheatgrass is for real
Hi nator,
Thank you for being so thorough in your approach, it's terrific.
It is important to note that our company is simply one of health enthusiasts who are trying to be keen observers of what happens to us and around us. Our personal experiences and those related to us directly by our customers both enable and limit what we are able to discuss.
As an example, you ask "how do you know the nutrients are easily assimilated." We have direct experience with this. My nephew was born premature at 32 weeks after a very difficult and toxic pregnancy. When the doctors evaluated his development, they told us that he actually had development closer to 28 weeks. This child struggled badly and began having weekly doctor's appointment. At 9 months of age, the doctor was very concerned as he started to lose weight and his color became grey. At this time, out of desperation, we started tube feeding him wheatgrass juice. Within a week, his color had returned to pink, his doctor was shocked & thrilled and this marked the point at which he really started to develop. I can certainly tell you from experience that even a baby (my nephew) can assimilate the nutrition found in wheatgrass juice. Is it possible that some other factor was responsible? Sure. It is likely to be something other than the wheatgrass juice? No.
I would like to apologize for an error on our part. The page you are quoting from "More Potential Benefits From Wheatgrass Juice" should have referenced the source which is The Wheatgrass Book by Ann Wigmore. These are not our claims, but rather Ann Wigmore's claims. Quite frankly, we don't want to make any claims, rather, we want to enable people to use their first amendment right to free speach to tell their story. This is what the Health Experiences Forum provides.
In terms of science, there is plenty of information available such as:
- 27 Summaries (most being quite dated)
http://www.wheatgrassprofessional.info/references.htm
- Doctor supported treatment complete with photographs
Testimonials - A Medical Doctor's Guide to Wheatgrass Healing
The idea of our own scientific valid study was of interest to us. In 2006, I enlisted the aid of a graduate student in psyco-oncology (currently completing their dissertation) to meet with us. The reason, we wanted to attract a graduate student working in a research group at Princess Margaret Hospital in Toronto, ON, Canada to do a statistically valid double-blind study. We were trying to understand a few things including:
- How big does a study need to be to be statistically valid
- How long should it take
- What results can be claimed to be proven
- Would a graduate student without a focus be interested
- What would our financial commitment be
After our meeting, we decided not to proceed and I'd like to share the reasons behind this.
- Research already exists.
- It is not financially feasible as wheatgrass juice is very hard to make and the supply is limited. We would bankrupt ourselves diverting that much juice, over that much time into a study.
- A study is too finite and in fact, would measure the wrong things.
For us, the 3rd point is the stopper. The orientation of a study is to create limited, statisically validated facts. Some of the reported benefits of wheatgrass juice are not only broad, they are qualitative (rather than quantitative) such as I feel more energetic, people tell me I look great, I feel 10 years younger. These are not really measurable. The second problem is that the areas in which we could see quantitative results are also very broad. As you can see from the customer posts, people talk about improvements in fertility, cancer, diabetes, skin conditions, auto-immune disorders, etc. We couldn't possibly fund that many studies.
In addition, there is a fundamentally different objective in a study. For the most part, there is an attempt to prove that the product itself does the work. For instance, you have a headache, the contents of this tablet blocks pain receptors; consequently, no headache.
Wheatgrass juice is just fuel (nutrition), it is your body that does the work. The great part is, the body seems to know what to do when it has the right raw materials available. There seems to be something special about wheatgrass juice, but we also strongly support raw foods in general. We believe people could make a big impact in their health by just choosing living foods when presented with the opportunity.
The Health Experiences Forum on our site came about as a result of our discussion about a scientific study. We believed that it would do a better job than a scientific study of:
- Showing broad health impacts
- Representing both qualitative and quantitative measures
- Provide more detailed information about other products or lifestyle changes people may make in addition to wheatgrass juice to reach a desired end result
I hope this helps provide some insight into where we stand with respect to scientific research. We certainly support the idea and if someone out there has the financial resources to proceed, I know where you can get some terrific wheatgrass juice.

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 55 of 101 (416164)
08-14-2007 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by DynamicGreens
08-14-2007 12:52 AM


Re: Wheatgrass is for real
quote:
Is it possible that some other factor was responsible? Sure. It is likely to be something other than the wheatgrass juice? No.
Again, anecdotal evidence is not particularly compelling.
quote:
Quite frankly, we don't want to make any claims, rather, we want to enable people to use their first amendment right to free speach to tell their story. This is what the Health Experiences Forum provides.
Oh, come on.
You absolutely make claims for the amazing power of wheatgrass juice to do almost anything all over your website. Why would you gather together all of these health claims if you weren't looking to influence people to think positively about the product you sell?
You aren't providing some kind of open, objective forum or informational site for discussion of wheatgrass juice, both pro and con. If you were, you would also include quotes from research and doctors that hold the view that wheatgrass juice is just a fad with nothing particularly special or amazing going for it.
I wonder what would happen if I posted polite but skeptical criticisms of the website on your message forum? Would I be censored? Would my messages be deleted? Where would my free speech rights be if I started pointing out that you make unsupported claims and use scientific-sounding jargon that is actually meaningless?
In your list of reasons for not testing your product, you stated as a reason:
quote:
A study is too finite and in fact, would measure the wrong things.
Can you elaborate on what things the study would measure and why they are "wrong", and also what you mean by a study being too "finite"?
Also, I asked a specific question regarding something on your website that it seems you have overlooked.
I asked:
I mean, the minute any food molecule hits our digestive juices they are denatured. Can you explain how food that is "denatured" is less nutritious than food that isn't?
I also pointed out that tooth decay is the result of acids produced by bacteria that live in plaque, not "degenerative changes in the body" as stated on your website.
What are you planning on doing regarding that false statement?
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nator
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Message 56 of 101 (416167)
08-14-2007 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by DynamicGreens
08-14-2007 12:52 AM


Re: Wheatgrass is for real
quote:
The Health Experiences Forum on our site came about as a result of our discussion about a scientific study. We believed that it would do a better job than a scientific study of:
- Showing broad health impacts
- Representing both qualitative and quantitative measures
- Provide more detailed information about other products or lifestyle changes people may make in addition to wheatgrass juice to reach a desired end result
Um, no.
Self-reporting is actually really, really awful at providing reliable evidence of cause and effect.
What you are describing is certain to be awash in many sorts of bias and the placebo effect.
We know this about human nature, and have known it for a long time.
That's why the gold standard of any scientific test is the double blind study.
That's why we don't test new drugs or evaluate the nutritional benefits of diets by having people self report how they feel on message forums.
In science, we try to limit variables and eliminate as much subject and experimenter bias, both conscious and unconscious, as we can.
What message boards do is actually encourage bias.

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Percy
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Message 57 of 101 (416175)
08-14-2007 10:33 AM
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08-14-2007 9:08 AM


Re: Wheatgrass is for real
Schraf writes:
I wonder what would happen if I posted polite but skeptical criticisms of the website on your message forum? Would I be censored? Would my messages be deleted? Where would my free speech rights be if I started pointing out that you make unsupported claims and use scientific-sounding jargon that is actually meaningless?
The health food/nutritional supplement industry is probably the most visible day-to-day example of rampant pseudoscience. Please, do this and report back to us.
To DynamicGreens: The honest answers you've been giving are much to your credit, but I think you're only giving them because you seem completely unaware of how well they epitomize pseudoscience. A team of us here at EvC Forum could, with little effort, design an equally worthless product and a website to sell it, and in no time we'd be raking in the dough - in fact, maybe we'd use your company as a supplier, if relabeling agreements is something you do.
Your company is selling the product because it makes money, not because there's evidence it works and you just want to help people. The average person is easy pickins for flim-flam. Con-artists see the general population as a big reservoir of money to be tapped, and your company is just feeding at the trough.
Just so you know why what you're doing is pseudoscience, let me briefly outline the scientific approach. In order, you should follow these two simple steps:
  1. Establish the effects of your product through scientific double-blind studies.
  2. Base your marketing campaign upon the positive scientific results, if any, while carefully noting any detrimental possibilities.
--Percy

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DynamicGreens
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Message 58 of 101 (416176)
08-14-2007 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by nator
08-14-2007 9:08 AM


Re: Wheatgrass is for real
Anecdotal evidence is what is being developed today to round out our knowledge. However, there is science behind this:
- 27 Summaries (most being quite dated)
http://www.wheatgrassprofessional.info/references.htm
- Doctor supported treatment complete with photographs
Testimonials - A Medical Doctor's Guide to Wheatgrass Healing
Is placebo effect in play in humans, yes. Are there other animal examples where placebo effect is not in effect, yes. You can read several of these (guinea pigs, Irish wolfhounds, etc.) in Wheatgrass - Nature's Finest Medicine by Steve Meyerowitz.
We are trying to build good information sources. In fact, if possible, we would like to completely replace the benefits page with customer experiences as these relate directly to the use of our juice. In doing this, we will also be able to map back usage against health objectives and really provide some unique information. We can do some of this now, but it is not complete enough to do yet.
We have made it a point not to develop our own claims. The benefits page you are referencing is commonly distributed public information from industry sources and is completely referenced (now that we added the missing reference you noted). I can't change these statements as they are not mine. For example, the tooth decay statement relates to teeth as the specialized bones that they are and references decay as being the result of low bone density. Yes, tooth decay is also caused by bacteria living in plaque...but what is it working against?
It's clear that you are very passionate about reliable information sources. I share this passion but am working within the limits of the information currently at hand. We are unique in that our company and approach is one that focuses on the excellence of the product (making a juice instead of some other format) despite all the additional costs. In this space, there are a lot of things which should make people very concerned. There are many products with claims that do not relate in any way to the format of the product they make. In the wheatgrass juice business, everyone making a powder references works that relate to juice. This is blatant mis-representation and not the kind of thing we do.

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Message 59 of 101 (416181)
08-14-2007 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Percy
08-14-2007 10:33 AM


Re: Wheatgrass is for real
What a great discussion board.
I completely agree that the health supplement industry is one full of pseudoscience. I also agree that our health experiences forum falls into this category; however, it is the contribution that we can afford to make and allows people exposure to opinions that would not be presented in any other manner.
Wheatgrass juice has a specific problem we are trying to address with the forum. That problem is mold. Most wheatgrass juice is grown indoors (including greenhouses) and as a result, contains very high levels of mold. These molds cause adverse reactions in people and stop most from being able to use it. The forum allows a better educated set of opinions to be presented. These are people that have had access to a clean source of juice and can therefore take large amounts over long periods of time and the result has been dramatic increases in people reaching their health objectives. If you come by our site in a week or so, another post will be going up. It will be from a man (Joe) who had feet so severely cracked by eczema that he could barely walk. This had been affecting him for over 5 years and there will be before and after pictures posted. I agree that we haven't proved anything to scientific standards, but Joe is dancing now and could barely walk before. I don't think we should deny people access to this kind of information. I do however believe that we should be clear that this is what happened to Joe and doesn't mean it will happen to you.
In the health supplement space, there are some really wrong things happening. How does a health food store end up filled wall to wall with bottles of tablets? How come some of the commercial vitamins have been shown to contain nothing at all? Why do so many products mis-represent research? How come bottles and extracts claim to do the same things as their raw food source? For that matter, why on earth do juice bars and stores keep serving wheatgrass juice loaded with mold?
I do think there are a lot of people, particularly in the MLM space that are feeding at the trough. Neither I or our company is one of them.
Cheers.
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Message 60 of 101 (416200)
08-14-2007 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by DynamicGreens
08-14-2007 11:31 AM


Re: Wheatgrass is for real
DynamicGreens writes:
I completely agree that the health supplement industry is one full of pseudoscience.
...
Neither I or our company is one of them.
When you make scientific claims without scientific foundation, you're committing pseudoscience. For instance, Dr. Chris Reynolds, your president, I presume, says:
Dr. Chris Reynolds writes:
I discovered many of my observations had already been recorded and there was a lot of science to back them up!
Your website is full of claims like this, that the positive health effects of wheatgrass have been scientifically established. Where's the science?
Going to your Selection of 27 Summaries... page, we see there are only two studies actually done on wheatgrass. The one by Ben-Arye, et. al., studied it as a treatment for active distal ulcerative colitis in humans. The other by B. Peryt et. al. studied a wheat sprout extract (not wheatgrass) in rats.
Many of the other studies focused on grass juice or extracts, or on chlorophyll, which Dr. Chris Reynolds himself claims cannot be a significant factor since your wheatgrass product contains almost no chlorophyll.
Pseudoscience websites attempt to give the impression of scientific support when in fact little to none actually exists. Your website employs this tactic to a large extent and so qualifies as a pseudoscience website.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : Grammar.

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